Derivation of the electric field from the potential

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The discussion centers on deriving the electric field (Ex) from the electric potential (V) of an electric dipole, specifically using the formula V = (2*(Ke)*q*x) / (a^2 - x^2). The user seeks clarification on how to compute Ex as -dV/dx, ultimately leading to the expression Ex = -2*(Ke)*q * [(a^2 + x^2) / ((a^2 - x^2)^2)]. The key technique required for this derivation is the application of the quotient rule in calculus.

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:confused: I am studying for a test and i can't figure out for the life of me how my book derived the solution for this problem I know it has to be basic i just don't see it...

An electric dipole consists of two charges of equal magnitude and opposite sign separated by a distance 2a... The dipole is along the x-axis and is centered at the origin.
calculate V and Ex if point P is located anywhere between the two charges.

I understand the concept of this, and have calculated V, which is [ (2*(Ke)*q*x) / ((a^2) - (x^2)) ] and i know how to start the problem of Ex...

Ex = - (dV/dx) = - [ (2*(Ke)*q*x) / ( (a^2) - (x^2) ) ...

But I can't remember or figure out for the life of me how they got

= - 2*(Ke)*q * [ { (a^2) + (x^2) } / { ( (a^2)-(x^2) )^2 } ]

Can Anyone please help? :D
 
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Your potential should look something like this
q \left( \frac {1}{ {a-x}} - \frac {1}{ {a+x}}\right)
so just combine the fractions.
 
yes that is correct :D.. but i already got past that point and found the answer for the electric potential, V ... which was the sum of that equation...

and got (2KeqX) / ( a^2 - x^2) But that just gives me the potential... I needed to take it a step further and find the magnitude of the electric field from that... which is Ex ... which is = -dV/dx ... but i don't see how they derived the answer ...

= - 2*(Ke)*q * [ { (a^2) + (x^2) } / { ( (a^2)-(x^2) )^2 } ]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH THOUGH! :D
 
stargirl22 said:
and got (2KeqX) / ( a^2 - x^2) But that just gives me the potential... I needed to take it a step further and find the magnitude of the electric field from that... which is Ex ... which is = -dV/dx ... but i don't see how they derived the answer ...
Is your problem that you don't know how to take the derivative?
 
You have to your the quotient rule!
 
Sorry, I mean : You have to use the quotient rule!
 
Quotient Rule

Please see the attached file. You will see how the quotient rule is require to get that answer.
 

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