Derivative of a Sine Function Problem Confusion

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The discussion centers on finding the derivative of the function f(x) = sin²(3-x) and evaluating it at x=0. Participants emphasize the importance of using the chain rule correctly, noting that the derivative involves both the outer function and the inner function. There is confusion regarding the application of the product rule and the notation used in the calculations. Clarifications are provided about the correct approach to differentiate the squared sine function and the necessity of proper derivative notation. The conversation ultimately enhances understanding of the chain rule in the context of trigonometric functions.
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Homework Statement



If f(x) = sin²(3-x), then f ' (0) = ____ .

A. -2cos3
B. -2sin3cos3
C. 6cos3
D. 2sin3cos3
E. 6sin3cos3


Homework Equations



Derivative of Sinx= cosx.


The Attempt at a Solution



I cannot seem to figure out what the derivative would be with this function.

sin(3-x) * sin(3-x) = Cos(3-x) * Cos(3-x), then plug in 0 for x?

Is there a simpler way using "u" substitution?

Thanks!
 
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Loppyfoot said:

Homework Statement



If f(x) = sin²(3-x), then f ' (0) = ____ .

A. -2cos3
B. -2sin3cos3
C. 6cos3
D. 2sin3cos3
E. 6sin3cos3


Homework Equations



Derivative of Sinx= cosx.


The Attempt at a Solution



I cannot seem to figure out what the derivative would be with this function.
What are you doing in the next line? Does it have anything to do with calculus? I don't see any indication that it does.
Loppyfoot said:
sin(3-x) * sin(3-x) = Cos(3-x) * Cos(3-x), then plug in 0 for x?


Is there a simpler way using "u" substitution?

Thanks!
Do you know about the chain rule? That's what you need here. Your function could be written this way f(x) = [sin(3 - x)]2.
 
so, would [ sin(3-x)²] = 2[sin(3-x)] * cos(3-x) *-1?

I think what is confusing me is the square of the function.
 
Almost. You're omitting the fact that your taking a derivative.
d/dx[ sin(3-x)²] = 2sin(3-x) * cos(3-x) *(-1) = -2sin(3 - x) cos(3 - x)
 
Right. Thank you Sir. I know on the AP Calculus exam, the graders take off for not writing limit notation, derivative notation, etc. Thank you for your help, and I definitely understand this chain rule of trigononemtric functions much better.
 
You're welcome. Glad to be of help.
 
Loppyfoot said:
so, would [ sin(3-x)²] = 2[sin(3-x)] * cos(3-x) *-1?

I think what is confusing me is the square of the function.
Yes, that is correct. That is using the "chain rule".

And note that your earlier "sin(3-x) * sin(3-x) = Cos(3-x) * Cos(3-x)" was wrong for a variety of reasons:
1) You really mean (sin(3-x)*sin(3-x))' on the left. Don't write "=" for things that are not equal!

2) You haven't multiplied by the derivative of 3- x as you should.

3) Most importantly, the derivative of f(x)*f(x) is NOT " f'(x)*f'(x)". It is, by the product rule, f'(x)*f(x)+ f(x)*f'(x) which is equal to 2f(x)f'(x), exactly what applying the chain rule to f'(x)^2 would give you.
 

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