Derivative of Trig Functions: Solving for f'(x) and f(∏/6)

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function f(x) = x^3 - sin(2x) and evaluating it at x = π/6. There is a discrepancy between the original poster's calculation and the answer provided in their textbook.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the derivative and the evaluation at π/6, with some attempting to convert radians to degrees. Questions arise about the validity of using degrees instead of radians and the implications of such conversions on the results.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and clarifying the importance of working in radians. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct approach to the problem, but no consensus has been reached on the calculations.

Contextual Notes

There is confusion regarding the use of radians versus degrees, particularly with the value of π and its relationship to 180 degrees. This has led to misunderstandings in the calculations presented.

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Homework Statement



x3 - sin 2x

Find f'(∏/6)

The Attempt at a Solution



f'(x) = 3x2 - 2 cos 2x
f(∏/6) = 2700 - 2 [ (√3/2) ] ---> from 2 [ cos(∏/6)]

answer: 2700 - √3

My book has the answer as (∏2 - 12)/12
 
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Work in radians so...

3(pi^2/36) - 2cos2(pi/6)

(pi^2/12) - 1 = (pi^2-12)/12

I hope I helped :S
 
But is it wrong if I convert ∏/6 = 30 and work with that?
 
Umm when I put (pi/6) into the gradient function 3x^2 - 2 cos 2x

I get 3(pi/6)^2 which is 3 (pi^2/36) minus 2cos2(pi/6)

2 times pi/6 is pi/3 and the cos of pi/3 is 1/2 and 1/2 times 2 is 1.

so the whole thing ends up being (pi^2/12)- 1
1= 12/12
so the last line is (pi^2)-(12)/12
 
But isn't (∏)^2/12 = 2700 and 12/12 = 1

Wouldn't it be sort of equivalent to 2700 - sqrt of 3 (1.73) ?

That's what I am trying to understand. What's the difference if I work with 30 instead of ∏/6 ? Is it wrong? =/
 
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Wait.. how did you get 2700?
 
Oh I was thinking of ∏ = 180.
Is it wrong? =/
 
ohhhhh lol yes it's wrong don't think of it like that. In questions
you're either working in radians or degrees . In this case it is radians.

So so pi/6 is not 180/6 , if it was degrees then it would be 30 degrees.
 
domyy said:
Oh I was thinking of ∏ = 180.
Is it wrong? =/

It is very, very wrong. Pi radians is 180 degrees yes. But the number pi is not equal to the number 180.
 
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nr. pi = 3.14, right?
Good you clarified that. Now I won't make the same mistake :)
180 and 3.14 were sort of mixed in mind.
Thank you so much! =D
 

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