Derivative Word Problem - Trig Needed?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a scenario with related rates in calculus, specifically focusing on the relationship between a person's height, the height of a streetlight, and the lengths of their shadows as the person walks away from the light source.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of similar triangles to relate the heights and lengths involved in the problem. There is a focus on establishing the correct relationships and differentiating to find rates of change.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the relationships between the triangles and have suggested writing expressions based on those relationships. There is an acknowledgment of a misunderstanding regarding the constancy of certain rates, prompting further exploration of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of related rates and the implications of similar triangles, with some uncertainty about the correct expressions and differentiation steps needed to progress.

Char. Limit
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Homework Statement


Now this is a problem that my sister had on her Calculus homework, and I can't seem to figure it out. I believe a similar triangles argument is necessary, but I'm not sure, and trig always was my weak spot. The problem is as follows:

A person 2 meters tall walks directly away from a streetlight that is 8 meters above the ground. If the person is walking at a constant rate and the person's shadow is lengthening at the rate of 4/9 m/s, at what rate, in m/s, is the person walking?

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The Attempt at a Solution



Well, we drew a nice triangle like so:

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We know that dx/dt = 4/9 and that dX/dt (the x-axis on the larger triangle) is constant. But I can't seem to complete the problem...
 
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It isn't true that dX/dt is constant. It's getting longer too. What is true is that the ratio of the height and the length of the smaller and larger triangles are equal. Those are the similar triangles. Write that expression down.
 
What, so like this?

\frac{8}{x+X} = \frac{2}{x}

And then use dx/dt=4/9 to get an expression for X in terms of t?
 
Char. Limit said:
What, so like this?

\frac{8}{x+X} = \frac{2}{x}

And then use dx/dt=4/9 to get an expression for X in terms of t?

Solve that equation for X then differentiate both sides to get an expression for dX/dt in terms of dx/dt.
 
Thanks! I can't believe I missed that.
 

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