Trigonometric Calculus Problem Solving Question

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The problem involves a spotlight casting a shadow on a wall, with a person of a specific height walking towards the wall. The objective is to determine how fast the height of the shadow on the wall is changing as the person approaches.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of right-angled triangles and similar triangles to model the situation. There are attempts to establish relationships between the height of the shadow and the distances involved. Questions arise regarding the influence of the person's height on the shadow's height.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided guidance on constructing the relationships needed to solve the problem. There is an exploration of how to express the height of the shadow in terms of time and the distances involved. Some participants have attempted to differentiate their expressions, leading to various results.

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Participants note the need to clarify the relationship between the height of the person and the shadow, as well as the distances from the spotlight and wall. There is an emphasis on understanding how these variables interact over time.

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Homework Statement


A spotlight on the ground shines on a wall 14m away. A person of height 2 m walks toward the wall on a direct path between the spotlight and the wall at a rate of 5/3m/s. How fast is the height of the shadow on the wall changing when the person is 4m from the wall?

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Not sure? I think implicit differentiation needs to be employed though.

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to construct a right-angled triangle to use as a diagram to represent the situation, however this didn't really help as I cannot identify which variables I need to use to answer the problem.

Thanks in advance for any help:)
 
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sonic25 said:
I tried to construct a right-angled triangle to use as a diagram to represent the situation, however this didn't really help as I cannot identify which variables I need to use to answer the problem.

Hi sonic,

You are supposed to find how the height of the shadow varies with time right? You know that the height depends on the distance of the person from the source. Just write down the relationship between the two and see how it varies with time.
 
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Sunil Simha said:
Hi sonic,

You are supposed to find how the height of the shadow varies with time right? You know that the height depends on the distance of the person from the source. Just write down the relationship between the two and see how it varies with time.
Yeah I'm just not sure as to how the 2m height of the person affects this relationship (if it does at all)?
 
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Think of a straight line that goes from the spotlight to the top of the guys head and onto the wall. You will have similar triangles, and then you can construct the ratio.

Hint*: What is the length the man has traveled after time t.
 
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xiavatar said:
Think of a straight line that goes from the spotlight to the top of the guys head and onto the wall. You will have similar triangles, and then you can construct the ratio.

Hint*: What is the length the man has traveled after time t.
Ok. Here is my latest attempt at a solution:
I devised a diagram like you said and tried to use a ratio.
Let x be the distance from the wall and h be the height of the shadow above the wall.
tan(theta)=h/14
So, in terms of h: h=14tan(theta)
But tan(theta)=2/(14-x)
Substitute this into h=14tan(theta),
h=14(2/(14-x))
I then implicitly differentiated this with respect to time.
dh/dt=-28((14-x)^(-2))(-dx/dt)
I then substituted the values given in the question:
dh/dt=35/12

Is this correct?
 

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Your answer is incorrect. First note that you want the height to be a function of time,## t##. Your diagram is correct, but forget ##x## and ##\theta##. After a time t, how far is the man from the spotlight at time ##t##. Now this will be the length the man is from the spotlight. Now you have two similar triangles. One of these triangles is the man and his distance from the spotlight. And the other triangle composed of the height of the wall and the distance the wall is from the spotlight.
 
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xiavatar said:
Now you have two similar triangles. One of these triangles is the man and his distance from the spotlight. And the other triangle composed of the height of the wall and the distance the wall is from the spotlight.
I used the similar triangles and gathered that the ratio of (5/3)t:14 was equal to 2:h.
By rearrangement, h=84/(5t)
Therefore, dh/dt=-84/(5t^2)
Since it takes 6 seconds for the man to reach the point 4m from the wall, I substituted t=6.
So, my end result for dh/dt was -7/15.
Is this the right answer?
 
Yes, that is correct.
 
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