Derivatives of ln(x): Taking on Complex Problems

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The discussion focuses on the process of taking derivatives of natural logarithmic functions, specifically ln(x) and more complex expressions such as ln(x4(2x+5)5) and ln[x5(x+4)3(x3+4)6]. The derivative of ln(x) is established as 1/x, and the product rule is applied for more complex functions. Participants confirm that the derivative can be calculated using the formula y' = u'.v.w + u.v'.w + u.v.w' for functions with multiple terms, ensuring to include the natural logarithm in the differentiation process.

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Homework Statement


I know how to take the derivative of ln(x), it's just 1/x. But what if you had something more complicated than just x?

For example, ln(x4(2x+5)5)?


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I guess you would still do 1/(x4(2x+5)5), then multiply it by the derivative of the denominator.

Which would be 4x3(2x+5)5 + x4(5(2x+5)4)(2).

Is that correct?

The problem I'm supposed to be doing is actually more complicated, it's ln[x5(x+4)3(x3+4)6]. Would the procedure be similar? I guess I'm not sure about taking the derivative of something with 3 terms, I've only ever seen it done with two.
 
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Yes. You are correct:

For example:

y= ln(x2)

y' = (1 / x2) .dx2dx

y' = 2x/x2

Also with three terms:

y= u.v.w

y' = u'.v.w + u.v'.w + u.v.w'

or you can deal with u and v and then w.
I think the u'.v.w + u.v'.w + u.v.w' will be a bit quicker

your question: ln[x5(x+4)3(x3+4)6]

let u = x5 , v= (x+4)3 , w = (x3+4)6

(Note that any of these could be u, v w) But remember not to forget the natural log function when differentiating :)
 
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