Deriving expressions for Fourier Transforms of Partial Derivatives

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The discussion focuses on deriving expressions for the Fourier Transforms of the partial derivatives ∂u/∂t and ∂u/∂x using the formal limit definition of the derivative. The Fourier Transform of a function u(x,t) is defined, and the attempt to derive the transform for ∂u/∂t shows that the limit can be pulled outside the integral, leading to a straightforward expression. However, confusion arises when addressing the Fourier Transform of ∂u/∂x, where the participant is unsure how to handle the limit and the differential notation. Suggestions are made to avoid using "dx" inappropriately, and the final result for ∂u/∂x is approached by manipulating the integral and applying limits correctly.
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Homework Statement



Using the formal limit definition of the derivative, derive expressions for the Fourier Transforms with respect to x of the partial derivatives \frac{\partial u}{\partial t} and \frac {\partial u}{\partial x}.

Homework Equations



The Fourier Transform of a function u(x,t) is:
<br /> \tilde{u}(k,t) = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} u(x,t) e^{-ikx} dx<br />

The Attempt at a Solution



I attempted to write the FT of the derivative with respect to time as \lim_{dt \to 0} \frac{u(x,t+dt) - u(x,t)}{dt} and then Fourier Transform it. Pulling the limit outside the integral, I got FT of (\frac{\partial u}{\partial t}) = \tilde{\frac {\partial u}{\partial t}}(k,t).Now, with the partial derivative of x, I'm not so sure. The partial derivative wrt x is \lim_{dx \to 0} \frac{u(x + dx,t) - u(x,t)}{dx}. When placed in the Fourier transform, I don't know what I can do. I don't think the dx at the end of the integral cancels out the dx in the definition of the derivative.
 
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Homework Statement



Using the formal limit definition of the derivative, derive expressions for the Fourier Transforms with respect to x of the partial derivatives \frac{\partial u}{\partial t} and \frac {\partial u}{\partial x}.



Homework Equations



The Fourier Transform of a function u(x,t) is:
<br /> \tilde{u}(k,t) = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} u(x,t) e^{-ikx} dx<br />

The Attempt at a Solution



I attempted to write the FT of the derivative with respect to time as \lim_{dt \to 0} \frac{u(x,t+dt) - u(x,t)}{dt} and then Fourier Transform it. Pulling the limit outside the integral, I got FT of (\frac{\partial u}{\partial t}) = \tilde{\frac {\partial u}{\partial t}}(k,t).


Now, with the partial derivative of x, I'm not so sure. The partial derivative wrt x is \lim_{dx \to 0} \frac{u(x + dx,t) - u(x,t)}{dx}. When placed in the Fourier transform, I don't know what I can do. I don't think the dx at the end of the integral cancels out the dx in the definition of the derivative.

You should avoid using "dx" and so forth as anything other than part of a derivative or integral (or as a differential form). Otherwise you run into this sort of confusion. When taking limits, use either \delta x or another letter.

You want to calculate
<br /> \int_{-\infty}^\infty \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{u(x+h, t) - u(x,t)}h e^{-ikx}\,dx<br /> = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac1h \left( \int_{-\infty}^\infty u(x + h, t)e^{-ikx}\,dx - \int_{-\infty}^\infty u(x, t)e^{-ikx}\,dx \right)<br />
 
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pasmith said:
You should avoid using "dx" and so forth as anything other than part of a derivative or integral (or as a differential form). Otherwise you run into this sort of confusion. When taking limits, use either \delta x or another letter.

You want to calculate
<br /> \int_{-\infty}^\infty \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{u(x+h, t) - u(x,t)}h e^{-ikx}\,dx<br /> = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac1h \left( \int_{-\infty}^\infty u(x + h, t)e^{-ikx}\,dx - \int_{-\infty}^\infty u(x, t)e^{-ikx}\,dx \right)<br />

Thanks, I must have derped out last night.

I'm thinking about turning the 2nd term into \lim_{h \to \infty} \frac{1}{h} \tilde{u}(k,t) and substituting the y = x + h into the first term, to give a final result of:
<br /> \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{1}{h} ((e^{ik(0+h)}-e^{ik0}) \tilde{u}) = ike^{0} \tilde{u}<br />
 
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