Deriving position function for object in SHM

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The discussion revolves around deriving the position function for an object undergoing simple harmonic motion (SHM). Participants are exploring the relationships between position, velocity, and acceleration in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the need to eliminate certain variables from their equations and question the effectiveness of their current approaches. There is mention of writing initial state equations to facilitate this elimination.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem by suggesting the formulation of initial state equations. There is acknowledgment of previous missteps in reasoning, and while one participant claims to have solved the problem, the discussion continues to reflect on the learning process and the importance of recognizing unproductive paths.

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There is a note about the use of specific variables and the challenges posed by visual aids in conveying mathematical work. The discussion also highlights the importance of understanding the reasoning behind problem-solving approaches.

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Homework Statement
Please see the image below
Relevant Equations
x(t) = Acos(wt + ϕ)
For this problem,
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How did they get that formula shown?

My working is,
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All the solutions wrote was,
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Many thanks!
 

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Your working headed off into a blind alley. You know that you need to be eliminating A, so tucking it inside an arccos function isn’t going to get you there.
Start by writing all three initial state equations: position, velocity and acceleration. Then see how you can combine them to eliminate one of the unknowns.
 
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Please type out your work instead of attaching pictures. The pictures make it impossible to quote particular sections.

Edit: I suggest you change your unknowns from A and phi to something more direct.
 
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haruspex said:
Your working headed off into a blind alley. You know that you need to be eliminating A, so tucking it inside an arccos function isn’t going to get you there.
Start by writing all three initial state equations: position, velocity and acceleration. Then see how you can combine them to eliminate one of the unknowns.
Thank you @haruspex and @Orodruin! I have solved the problem now.

Many thanks!
 
Callumnc1 said:
Thank you @haruspex and @Orodruin! I have solved the problem now.

Many thanks!
You are welcome. But did you understand my comment about heading off into a blind alley? Recognising which directions cannot lead anywhere is a useful skill to develop.
 
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haruspex said:
You are welcome. But did you understand my comment about heading off into a blind alley? Recognising which directions cannot lead anywhere is a useful skill to develop.
Thanks @haruspex! I did understand your comment, which I agree, would be very useful skill to have!

Many thanks,
Callum
 

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