Deriving Schwartzschild Finding Mistake in Ricci Tensor

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The discussion centers around the derivation of the Schwarzschild solution in general relativity, specifically focusing on identifying a mistake in the Ricci tensor's Rθθ component. Participants are engaged in a technical exploration of the mathematical steps involved in this derivation.

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  • One participant expresses difficulty in deriving the Schwarzschild solution and identifies a specific component of the Ricci tensor as the source of their confusion.
  • Another participant suggests that the original poster should share their steps to facilitate further assistance, recommending the use of a specific equation from a reference text.
  • A participant points out a potential missing term in the original poster's derivation, indicating that this omission could be the source of the misunderstanding.
  • The original poster acknowledges the feedback and indicates that the clarification provided has helped them understand the issue better.

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The discussion does not appear to reach a consensus on the derivation process, as it involves corrections and suggestions for improvement rather than a definitive resolution of the original poster's mistake.

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Hi, I've been unsuccesfully trying to derive the Schwartzschild solution, narrowing my mistake down to a single component of the Ricci tensor. The problem is the following(taken from Weinberg's book, with grr = A , gtt = -B and the angular part being the same as in spherical coordinates):
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I know it must be a simple mistake, but I must have spent three hours playing around with it and I still don't see it. Could someone please calculate the Rθθ component step by step so that i can see where I went wrong?

Thanks in advance.
 
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abccdef125 said:
Could someone please calculate the Rθθ component step by step

It would be better for you to try posting your steps. The first step is to take equation 8.1.12 and simply fill in ##\mu = \theta## and ##\kappa = \theta##, leaving all other indexes free. Do that and post what you come up with, and we can go from there.
 
I'm sorry it's not in LaTeX, I thought i was going to be able to convert it easily from Word, but I didn't succeed.

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I think you missed a term in the third line of your derivation. We have:

$$
- \frac{\partial \Gamma^r_{\theta \theta}}{\partial r} = - \frac{\partial}{\partial r} \left( \frac{- r}{A} \right) = \frac{1}{A} - \frac{r A'}{A^2}
$$

I don't see the ##- r A' / A^2## anywhere in your third line. The rest of the third line looks OK. If you put in that missing term in the third line, it should fix the fourth line to look like Weinberg's result.
 
Thank you very much, it finally makes sense.
 

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