Deriving the Lorentz transformations

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the derivation of the Lorentz transformations, focusing on the challenges faced by a participant in substituting into equations when time equals zero. The scope includes theoretical approaches to deriving the transformations and the various methods that can be employed.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in deriving the Lorentz transformations, particularly with substitution at t=0.
  • Another participant requests more details on the approach taken to provide meaningful assistance.
  • Some participants note that there are multiple methods to derive the Lorentz transformations, suggesting that the starting point and familiarity with techniques influence the approach.
  • A later reply indicates that one participant has found an answer but seeks explanations of other derivation methods.
  • Another participant suggests that without knowing the specific method found, it would be more beneficial to search online for additional derivations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there are various methods to derive the Lorentz transformations, but the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific techniques and approaches discussed.

Contextual Notes

The discussion lacks specific details on the participant's initial approach and the assumptions made during the derivation process. There is also an indication that some mathematical steps may be unresolved.

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I have tried to derive the lorentz transformations but there is a part of it that requires substitution into two equations when t=0. How do I do that
I have tried to derive the lorentz transformations but there is a part of it that requires substitution into two equations when t=0. How do I do that
 
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Please show what you have done so far. It is impossible to tell what you have done based on your vague description.
 
Just to add - there are many, many ways to derive the transforms depending on your starting point and familiarity with different techniques. So we need to know how you are approaching it before we can comment.

You can use LaTeX to write maths - there's a guide linked below the reply box if you don't know how it works.
 
Ibix said:
Just to add - there are many, many ways to derive the transforms depending on your starting point and familiarity with different techniques. So we need to know how you are approaching it before we can comment.

You can use LaTeX to write maths - there's a guide linked below the reply box if you don't know how it works.
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Ibix said:
Just to add - there are many, many ways to derive the transforms depending on your starting point and familiarity with different techniques. So we need to know how you are approaching it before we can comment.

You can use LaTeX to write maths - there's a guide linked below the reply box if you don't know how it works.
Actually I have found my answer. But please can you explain those other ways ?
 
TobilobaEinstein said:
Actually I have found my answer. But please can you explain those other ways ?
Not unless we know which one you found...but as this point you’ll be better served by google. You’ll find a bunch more derivations that wAy, and if you have trouble understanding something we can help you over the hard spot.

This thread seems to be at a good stopping point so is closed.
 

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