Deriving Wave Function for One-Dimensional Sinusoidal Wave

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The discussion revolves around deriving the wave function for a one-dimensional sinusoidal wave, specifically focusing on the relationship between the wave's mathematical representation and its graphical depiction. Participants are examining the derivation of a specific equation related to the wave's period and its representation in a graph.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning the derivation of the wave function from a graph, particularly the relevance of a referenced figure. There is discussion about the period of the sine function and how it relates to the wave's wavelength, with some suggesting that the function's period must be adjusted to match the wavelength.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and clarifications regarding the relationship between the wave function and its graphical representation. There are differing interpretations of the statements made about the period of the wave, and some participants are attempting to clarify these points.

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There appears to be some confusion regarding the references to figures and the specific definitions of period in relation to the wave function. Participants are also addressing potential miscommunications in the phrasing of statements about the wave's properties.

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Homework Statement
Please see below and https://openstax.org/books/university-physics-volume-1/pages/16-2-mathematics-of-waves for more details.
Relevant Equations
Please see below
Where did they get the equation in circled in red from? It does not seem that it can be derived from the graph below.
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Many thanks
 
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Figure 16.10 is just a graph of \sin(theta). It is not referenced in the extract you have posted; why then you would expect the highlighted part to be directly derivable from a figure which is nowhere referred to? Perhaps look at the part of the text where the figure is actually referenced.

I suspect that, prior to the extract you have posted, it is stated that y should have period \lambda. Sine, of course, has a period of 2\pi, so to get a function with period \lambda you have to use \sin (2\pi x/\lambda), so that \theta = 2\pi x/\lambda is equal to 2\pi when x = \lambda.
 
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pasmith said:
Figure 16.10 is just a graph of \sin(theta). It is not referenced in the extract you have posted; why then you would expect the highlighted part to be directly derivable from a figure which is nowhere referred to? Perhaps look at the part of the text where the figure is actually referenced.

I suspect that, prior to the extract you have posted, it is stated that y should have period \lambda. Sine, of course, has a period of 2\pi, so to get a function with period \lambda you have to use \sin (2\pi x/\lambda), so that \theta = 2\pi x/\lambda is equal to 2\pi when x = \lambda.
Thanks for your reply @pasmith! You meant to say that "it is stated that x should have a period of λ" instead of "
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" correct?

I guess they took an arbitrary point along the wave to for ratio of phase to wavelength which they also could of picked a point on the wave which has a π phase which has a wavelength λ/2.
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Many thanks
 
Callumnc1 said:
You meant to say that "it is stated that x should have a period of λ" instead of "
1672949737419-png.png
" correct?
incorrect. In ##y=\sin(2\pi x/\lambda)##, it is the value of y that repeats as x increases by λ, so we say y has period λ.
 
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haruspex said:
incorrect. In ##y=\sin(2\pi x/\lambda)##, it is the value of y that repeats as x increases by λ, so we say y has period λ.
Thank you @haruspex !
 

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