Designing Connector for Wind Turbine Blade Root

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around designing a connector for the root of a wind turbine blade, specifically focusing on original design ideas that do not replicate existing connectors. Participants explore various design considerations such as interaction with other parts, tightness, cohesion, slippage, dry friction, shear, and cost.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests a dovetail type connection similar to those used in steam turbine blades, which could allow the blade root to slot into the hub.
  • Another participant mentions that while the dovetail connection is a good idea, it may not be usable due to its association with other turbine types, which could be seen as non-original.
  • A different participant proposes a mechanism inspired by Ospreys or helicopters, noting their similar pitch mechanisms.
  • One participant humorously suggests a design where blades lock into each other to form the hub, although they acknowledge the impracticality of this idea after a bird strike or over-speed.
  • Several participants discuss the terminology of the dovetail connection, with some learning that it is referred to as a "Christmas tree" or "fir tree" arrangement in gas turbines.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the feasibility of creating something entirely new in a well-established field.
  • Another participant indicates they have developed a few designs based on the input received from others.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of ideas and suggestions, but there is no consensus on a specific design. Some ideas are challenged or deemed impractical, while others are explored further without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the challenge of creating an original design in a field with a long history of development, highlighting the potential limitations of their proposed ideas.

valley
Messages
10
Reaction score
0
Hi Guys,
I have a project to hand in before xmas. Basically I have to design a
connector for a Wind turbine Blade. ie the Blade root, the one that connects to the hub. for this I have to come up with original ideas, so I cannot use another current of previous blade root connector. I have to come up with a few designs and work from their.

so far I have the light bulb connector.( the one with the threads), but I don't want to use this as it some others are using it already.Here are a few things that I am trying to take into account with each design

Interaction with other parts
Tightness(play)
Cohesion
Slippage
Dry Friction
Shear
Cost

Any inputs is really appreciated, even if you think it is silly! I am trying to
brainstorm. so every little helps

thanks you.
 
Engineering news on Phys.org
how about a dovetail type connection where the shape of the blade root sort of slots into the hub. that's how steam turbine blades attach to their hub
 
gmax137 said:
how about a dovetail type connection where the shape of the blade root sort of slots into the hub. that's how steam turbine blades attach to their hub


:smile:

Good work mate. keep them coming if you have anymore ideas. Going to look
into that connection now.

thank you
 
On second thought i probably won't be able to use it, although it is not directly used in wind turbines, it is used in another type of turbine, which my lecturer might see it as using a connector type from a turbine.

thanks anyway
 
valley said:
Hi Guys,
I have a project to hand in before xmas. Basically I have to design a
connector for a Wind turbine Blade. ie the Blade root, the one that connects to the hub. for this I have to come up with original ideas, so I cannot use another current of previous blade root connector. I have to come up with a few designs and work from their.

so far I have the light bulb connector.( the one with the threads), but I don't want to use this as it some others are using it already.Here are a few things that I am trying to take into account with each design

Interaction with other parts
Tightness(play)
Cohesion
Slippage
Dry Friction
Shear
Cost

Any inputs is really appreciated, even if you think it is silly! I am trying to
brainstorm. so every little helps

thanks you.

Anyone please?
 
Right, in gas turbines, the turbine blades are connected using a dovetail arrangement that's commonly called a Christmas tree or some other clever variant.

What are some methods that you have thought up?
 
How about something from a Osprey or helicopter? Both have similar mechanisms since both have to pitch.

heli-main-hub.jpg
 
This seems like a foolish project so I will give a foolish answer. Make the blades of configuration where each blade locks into its surrounding blades causing the blades themselves to form the hub when all were assembled. Then you could put a simple band around the outside that holds them together.

Yup, after the first bird strike or over speed it will cause horrible projectiles everywhere, but hey he asked for something new that had never been done before.

No offense to you, but asking from something that has never been done before in a field that has been around for hundreds of years is foolish. If it has truly never been done before then there is a reason why.

Sadly, even my idea has probably been done.
 
gmax137 said:
how about a dovetail type connection where the shape of the blade root sort of slots into the hub. that's how steam turbine blades attach to their hub

Ah, so that's what that connection type is called. Learn something new 'ary day!
 
  • #11
thanks guys for all your help, I have gone with a few designs now

thanks again
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 24 ·
Replies
24
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
5K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
12K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K