Determination of intermolecular forces using surface tension

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The discussion centers on calculating intermolecular interaction energy using surface tension for liquid ethanol, with a surface tension value of 21.26355 dyn/cm. The coordination number for ethanol is assumed to be 12, leading to a surface coordination number of 6. The relationship between surface tension and force is established through the equation γ = F/2l, where F is the force and l is the length. Participants seek methods to systematically determine coordination numbers at the surface and derive relevant equations.

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  • Understanding of surface tension and its measurement
  • Familiarity with coordination numbers in molecular chemistry
  • Knowledge of intermolecular forces and energy calculations
  • Basic grasp of mathematical derivations in physical chemistry
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  • Research methods for calculating intermolecular interaction energy from surface tension
  • Study the derivation of equations related to surface tension and coordination numbers
  • Explore the concept of coordination numbers in different molecular geometries
  • Investigate the relationship between surface tension and molecular arrangement in liquids
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Hi there. I have found the surface tension for liquid etanol on a given problem. Then the problem says: supposing that the coordination number for etanol is 12, what value does the intermolecular interaction energy has?
I have ##\gamma=21,26355\frac{dyna}{cm}##, gamma is the surface tension that I've found.

The coordination number gives the number of molecules around one molecule in the liquid. I think that because the surface tension happens in the interface, the coordination number in there is 12/2=6.

I also know that ##\gamma=F/2l##, I have this in my notes from class. This is what you get by analysing the virtual work by pushing a thin film a ##\Delta x## distance.

##F\Delta x=2l\Delta x \gamma##

PS: I made a mistake in the title, it's not the determination of intermolecular forces, but intermolecular energy.
 
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Telemachus said:
The coordination number gives the number of molecules around one molecule in the liquid. I think that because the surface tension happens in the interface, the coordination number in there is 12/2=6.
A quick Google on the subject suggests it will be more than half. I see a couple of places where a bulk number of 6 is presumed to correspond to a surface number of 5. But I couldn't find a general rule or any theoretical basis for the assumption. With optimally stacked spheres, each interior sphere has 12 neighbours, while each on a flat surface would have 9.
 
Thanks for your answer. Do you have any idea on how to determine the interaction energy using the surface tension and the coordination number?
 
Telemachus said:
Do you have any idea on how to determine the interaction energy using the surface tension and the coordination number?
It's a field I know nothing about, but see if this helps: http://mail.vssd.nl/hlf/d007ch02.pdf
 
Thank you very much. I think it will help.

I would need to know how to determinate systematically the coordination number for molecules in the surface. And I would like to know also how to derive the equations (2.4) to (2.8).
 

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