Determination of planck's constant

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The discussion revolves around estimating Planck's constant using a graph of voltage versus frequency derived from an experiment involving the photoelectric effect. Participants are exploring the relationship between stopping voltage and frequency for a metal surface.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the equation relating stopping voltage and frequency, questioning how to isolate Planck's constant from the derived equations. There are inquiries about the nature of the experiment and the interpretation of graph characteristics.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the relationships between variables and questioning the accuracy of calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the gradient of the graph, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working with specific values from the graph and are mindful of unit conversions, particularly regarding frequency. There is a concern about the accuracy of the gradient calculation and its implications for determining Planck's constant.

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I have a graph of voltage verse frequency.
Given that the charge of an electron = 1.6 x 10^-19 I need to obtain an estimate of the value Planck's constant. What equation do I need to use? Do I find the gradient of the graph?
 
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What is the experiment that led to these measurements (this graph)?
[I have a guess... but you should really describe it.]
 
its the stopping voltage versus frequency for a metal surface.
The only part of the graph shown is from 5.4 to 6.8 f(X 10^14) and .26 to .85 volts. The graph is linear.
 
the work done in stopping the electron is equal to the kinetic energy lost...
that is,
[itex]eV_s=\frac{1}{2}mv^2[/tex]<br /> <br /> so from [itex]hf=hf_0+\frac{1}{2}mv^2[/itex]=>[itex]hf=hf_0+eV_s[/itex]<br /> <br /> rearrange and make it into the form you want...[/itex]
 
How can I solve for h when h is on both sides of the equation?
 
[itex]eV_s=hf-hf_0[/itex]
[itex]V_s=\frac{h}{e}f-\frac{h}{e}f_0[/itex]

Y=MX+C, can you see what M and C are?
 
I can't see what they are.
The values are
m = .421428
c = -2.2757 x 10^14
 
Well from [itex]V_s=\frac{h}{e}f-\frac{h}{e}f_0[/itex]

if a graph of [itex]V_s[/itex] and f is drawn, then the gradient,m. would be equal to the fraction: [itex]\frac{h}{e}[/itex] and so you know what e is, find h
 
I tryed this but but solving for h in m=h/e does not give Planck's constant.
 
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Are you being careful with your units when you are calculating your gradient?

Remember that your frequency scale will probably be (x 10^14) Hz

You should get a much smaller gradient.
 

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