Determine if angular momentum is conserved given potential energy funtions?

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The discussion focuses on determining whether angular momentum is conserved for various potential energy functions in three dimensions. It emphasizes that angular momentum conservation requires the cross product of the position vector r and the force F, derived from the negative gradient of the potential energy U, to equal zero. The conversation highlights confusion regarding the appropriate choice of the position vector r, particularly in relation to different reference points. It clarifies that for the potential U = α/r, the force field is symmetric about the origin, leading to F x r being zero. Ultimately, the thread seeks to clarify the relationship between force, position vectors, and angular momentum conservation in different contexts.
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Homework Statement


For each of the following potential energy functions in three dimensions, what quantities are conserved (energy, momentum, angular momentum)?

Homework Equations


U = k/2(x^2 + y^2)

U = α/r

U = β(z(hat) dotted with r)^2

U = α/r + β(z(hat) dotted with r)^2

Where z(hat) is the unit vector in the z direction.

The Attempt at a Solution



So I understand that in order for the angular momentum to be conserved the cross product of r and F, being the force obtained from the negative gradient of U, must be equal to zero. However I am not sure what to use for the position vector r.
 
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Suppose you measure moment about a point v for a force F acting at r. You know Fxr=0. What will the moment about v be?
 
We don't know that F x r = 0. We are trying to determine whether it is or not, and I am not sure what to use for r.
 
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We don't know that F x r = 0. We are trying to determine whether it is or not, and I am not sure what to use for r.
Yes, sorry, I was thinking specifically of the U = a/r case, but forgot to say so.
As I read that question, U is specified in relation to a coordinate system where r is the position vector, and the field it defines will be symmetric about the origin. Hence Fxr will be 0.
For any other reference point v, what is the vector from v to the point r? If the force of the field at r is F(r), what will be its moment about v?
 
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