Determine if series is con/divergent

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The discussion revolves around determining the convergence or divergence of the series Ʃ[√(n+1)-√(n)]/√(n^2 +n). Participants are exploring various approaches to analyze the series, including splitting it into two parts and applying comparison tests.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss splitting the series into two separate series and question the validity of applying limits and comparison tests. There is mention of using the quadratic conjugate trick to facilitate the analysis.

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Some participants have suggested methods for analyzing the series, including the comparison test and rationalizing the numerator. There appears to be some disagreement regarding the divergence of the original series versus the split series, indicating ongoing exploration of the topic.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the application of the comparison test and the use of the quadratic conjugate, as well as differing opinions on the divergence of the series involved.

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Homework Statement



Ʃ[√(n+1)-√(n)]/√(n^2 +n)

The Attempt at a Solution



well i split the series up first.

Ʃ√(n+1)/√(n^2 +n) - Ʃ√(n)/√(n^2 +n)

next:

Ʃ[(n+1)/(n^2 +n)]^1/2 - Ʃ[n/(n^2 +n)]^1/2

at this point I am not sure if i can take the limit and divide all the terms by the highest power of n.
 
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Both of the series you've split it up into diverge. They are like 1/sqrt(n). I'd suggest you multiply numerator and denominator by sqrt(n+1)+sqrt(n) first. It's the quadratic conjugate trick. Then use a comparison test.
 
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bfusco said:

Homework Statement



Ʃ[√(n+1)-√(n)]/√(n^2 +n)

The Attempt at a Solution



well i split the series up first.

Ʃ√(n+1)/√(n^2 +n) - Ʃ√(n)/√(n^2 +n)

next:

Ʃ[(n+1)/(n^2 +n)]^1/2 - Ʃ[n/(n^2 +n)]^1/2

at this point I am not sure if i can take the limit and divide all the terms by the highest power of n.

so I am basically using the comparison test? I am comparing these series to 1/n, which is divergent, and because these series are less than 1/n it also is divergent. also considering that 1 of the now 2 series is diveregent the whole thing is divergent.
 
bfusco said:
so I am basically using the comparison test? I am comparing these series to 1/n, which is divergent, and because these series are less than 1/n it also is divergent. also considering that 1 of the now 2 series is diveregent the whole thing is divergent.

The two series you've split it up into diverge. The original series does not diverge. Read my post again.
 
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If you split up the following fraction into its sum;
[tex]\sum^{\infty}_{n= ?}\frac {\sqrt{n+1}-\sqrt n}{\sqrt {n^2 +n}}=\sum^{\infty}_{n= ?}\frac {\sqrt{n+1}}{\sqrt {n^2 +n}}-\sum^{\infty}_{n= ?}\frac {\sqrt n}{\sqrt {n^2 +n}}[/tex]
and then take the limits for both, you will get zero in each case, which by the nth-term test for divergence, doesn't say if both series converge or diverge.
Dick said:
Both of the series you've split it up into diverge. They are like 1/sqrt(n). I'd suggest you multiply numerator and denominator by sqrt(n+1)+sqrt(n) first. It's the quadratic conjugate trick. Then use a comparison test.
Normally, isn't the multiplication of the conjugate done with the denominator, instead of the numerator as you suggested?
 
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sharks said:
Normally, isn't the multiplication of the conjugate done with the denominator, instead of the numerator as you suggested?

There isn't any "normally". You can rationalize either a numerator or denominator. What you do depends on your problem and what your goal with the particular problem is. Dick's post is spot on for a good suggestion.
 

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