Determine Mass of Pulley in Atwood's Machine

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The problem involves an Atwood's machine with two masses, where one mass is released from a height and the speed at impact is given. The goal is to determine the mass of the pulley, which is described as a uniform disk.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss finding the acceleration of the masses and the relationship between the acceleration of the pulley and the masses. Questions arise about the final velocity of the second mass and the definition of the pulley's mass.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on calculating acceleration and relating it to the pulley. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between linear and angular acceleration, and the discussion is actively considering the implications of torque on the pulley.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the pulley is a uniform disk and are questioning the definitions and relationships between the variables involved, such as the final velocities and the mass of the pulley.

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Homework Statement


The two masses(m1 = 5.0 kg and m2 = 3.0 kg) in the Atwood's machine shown below are released from rest, with m1 at a height of 0.75 m above the floor. When m1 hits the ground its speed is 1.8 m/s. Assuming that the pulley is a uniform disk with a radius of 12 cm, determine the pulley's mass.

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Homework Equations


Rotational kinematics


The Attempt at a Solution


I don't really know where to start here. Could someone please start me off?
 
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Initial and final velocity of m1 is given. h is given. Find acceleration of m1. m2 and pulley will have the same acceleration. Write down the expression for a to them. Then solve for the mass of the pulley.
 
rl.bhat said:
Initial and final velocity of m1 is given. h is given. Find acceleration of m1. m2 and pulley will have the same acceleration. Write down the expression for a to them. Then solve for the mass of the pulley.

Is the final velocity of m2 also 1.8 m/s? And is the mass of the pulley simply the mass of the disk?
 
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Is the final velocity of m2 also 1.8 m/s? And is the mass of the pulley simply the mass of the disk?
Yes.
 
So I found the acceleration to be 2.16 m/s^2.

Now is the acceleration of the pulley 2.16/0.12 = 18 rad/s^2?

So how do I find the mass?
 
Alright! You are almost there. You can say that net torque on the disk is \tau=I\alpha
 

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