Determine ## \sum \frac{1}{n^{p}ln(n)} ## diverges for 0<p<1

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of the series ## \sum \frac{1}{n^{p} \ln(n)} ## for the range of parameters where \(0 < p < 1\). Participants are exploring various methods to determine whether this series diverges.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of different convergence tests, including direct comparison and the Cauchy condensation test. There is a suggestion to analyze the case when \(p=1\) to draw conclusions about the divergence for \(0 < p < 1\).

Discussion Status

Several participants are actively engaging with the problem, proposing various tests and comparisons. There is a recognition of the potential elegance in using the comparison of the series with known divergent series. However, no consensus has been reached on a definitive approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the tests they have tried are inconclusive, and there is an ongoing exploration of assumptions regarding the behavior of the logarithmic term in relation to the series.

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Homework Statement



## \sum \frac{1}{n^{p}ln(n)} ##

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All the common tests I have tried are inconclusive. I have the feeling that direct comparison test is the way to go, but I cannot seem to find what to compare ## \frac{1}{n^{p}ln(n)} ## to.
 
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Try plugging in [itex]p=1[/itex] and see whether that one diverges first, from there it should be easy.
 
i don't see how plugging p=1 gets you anywhere other than showing that it diverges for p=1. For p=1 you can use integral test.

I ended up using cauchy condensation test http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cauchy_condensation_test

Then showed that the series in this test diverges (using ratio test) for 0<p<1 thus implying the original diverges
 
I think kontejnjer's point is that once you establish that it diverges for p=1, you can use the comparison [itex]\frac{1}{n^pln(n)}>\frac{1}{nln(n)}[/itex] for [itex]0<p<1[/itex]
 
HS-Scientist said:
I think kontejnjer's point is that once you establish that it diverges for p=1, you can use the comparison [itex]\frac{1}{n^pln(n)}>\frac{1}{nln(n)}[/itex] for [itex]0<p<1[/itex]

ah hah. much more elegant
 
DotKite said:
ah hah. much more elegant

Even more elegant: choose k > 0 so that p + k < 1. Since ##\ln(n)/n^k \to 0## as ##n \to \infty,## we have ##\ln(n) \leq n^k## for all ##n \geq N(k)##, where ##N(k)## is finite.
Thus, for ##n \geq N(k)## we have
[tex]\frac{1}{n^p \ln(n)} \geq \frac{1}{n^{p+k}} \geq \frac{1}{n}[/tex]
 

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