Determine the convergence/divergence of this series with all possible tests

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The discussion revolves around determining the convergence or divergence of the series from n=0 to infinity of (n+1)/3^n. Participants explore various convergence tests, including the ratio test and comparison test, while expressing uncertainty about the application of these tests.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to use the ratio test and raises questions about the comparison test, specifically what to compare the series to. Some participants suggest comparisons to geometric series and express confusion about certain terms used in the discussion.

Discussion Status

Participants have shared initial attempts at applying the ratio test and comparison test. There is acknowledgment of the original poster's efforts, and some guidance has been offered regarding potential comparisons. However, there remains a lack of consensus on the best approach and some confusion about specific terms.

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Participants note the complexity of the integral test and the challenges in identifying appropriate comparisons for the series. There is also mention of a potential typo regarding the terms used in the series.

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Homework Statement


series from n=0 to infinity of
(n+1)/3^n

Did I do this correctly? Also, I'm pretty positive that I can use the comparison test/limit comparison test, but I can't seem to figure out what to compare it to, could someone shed a little light? For the integral test, the integral is quite intimidating and I don't really know where to start, could someone suggest what integration technique to try?

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so first I used the ratio test
lim n->infinity |((n+2)/3^(n+1)) * ((3^n)/(n+1))|
= lim n->infinity (n+2)/(3(n+1))
dividing by n/n
you have the limit = 1/3<1, therefore it converges by the ratio test.
 
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That's good.

If you want to do the comparison test, then maybe apply

[tex](n+1)<2^n[/tex]

for large n?
 
micromass said:
That's good.

If you want to do the comparison test, then maybe apply

[tex](n+1)<2^n[/tex]

for large n?

So then I would have a convergent geometric series since 2/3<1.
Wow, beautiful. I would've never thought of that on my own, been staring at it for 30minutes trying to compare it to random things.
 
You could simply divide and you would have two geometric series.

Also trivially, it's probably 1 to infinity, because of the n^3 on the bottom.
 
johnqwertyful said:
You could simply divide and you would have two geometric series.

Also trivially, it's probably 1 to infinity, because of the n^3 on the bottom.

I'm confused on where the n^3 came from. Was that a typo and you meant 3^n?
 
johnqwertyful said:
You could simply divide and you would have two geometric series.

Also trivially, it's probably 1 to infinity, because of the n^3 on the bottom.

mathnoobie said:
I'm confused on where the n^3 came from. Was that a typo and you meant 3^n?

I think that johnqwertyful misread your post.
 
Oops, misread.
 

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