Determine the difference in potential between A and B

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The problem involves determining the difference in electric potential between two points, A and B, in a circuit that includes resistors and applies Kirchhoff's rules for current and voltage. The context is rooted in circuit analysis, specifically focusing on parallel components.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Kirchhoff's voltage law and the implications of current through resistors in determining potential difference. Questions arise regarding the correct interpretation of voltage changes along different paths in the circuit.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various paths and calculations to find the potential difference, with some guidance provided on using Kirchhoff's law. There is acknowledgment of discrepancies in calculated values and discussions about the accuracy of results, but no explicit consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that keeping more decimal places in calculations may yield different results. There is also mention of potential discrepancies in textbook answers, suggesting a need for careful consideration of calculations and assumptions.

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Homework Statement



Determine the difference in potential between A and B.
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Homework Equations



Kirchhoff's rules for current (loop, junction), V = IR

The Attempt at a Solution



I have found the currents through the resistors:
12 - 3.9a - 1.2b - 9.8a = 0 (loop rule)
12 - 3.9a - 6.7c - 9 - 9.8a = 0 (loop rule)
a = b + c (junction rule)
c = -1.0295 & b = 1.75196 & a = 0.722456

6.7 ohm resistor has 1.02 A counterclockwise
3.9 ohm and 9.8 ohm resistors have 0.72 A clockwise
1.2 ohm resistor has 1.7 A clockwise.

What do I do from here? I know that if A and B were in series, the difference in potential between them would be a drop which equals the potential differences across each component between them in series, but this is in parallel, and so I don't know what to do.
 
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Kirchhoff's voltage law works for any components along a continuous path. If you can trace a path from B to A and can add up all the voltage changes along the way, you're done!
 
There is a 1.2 ohm resistor on one path between A and B, and the current through it is 1.7 A, so the potential difference across the resistor is 2.04 V. Is this the difference in potential between A and B? The correct answer is 2.2 V.
 
Cade said:
There is a 1.2 ohm resistor on one path between A and B, and the current through it is 1.7 A, so the potential difference across the resistor is 2.04 V. Is this the difference in potential between A and B? The correct answer is 2.2 V.

Your method is correct.

If you keep a few more decimal places in your intermediate values you should find that the voltage is a bit higher than what you got (although not quite 2.2 V).

You could also try the same thing for other paths between A and B.
 
1.2 ohms * 1.75196 A = 2.102352 V

Still coming up short. :smile:

Using the other available path,
-6.7*1.0295 + 9 = 2.102352 V

Hmm... I suppose it's close enough.
 
Cade said:
1.2 ohms * 1.75196 A = 2.102352 V

Still coming up short. :smile:

Using the other available path,
-6.7*1.0295 + 9 = 2.102352 V

Hmm... I suppose it's close enough.

Not only is it close enough, 2.1V is the correct answer! Sometimes books can be, shall we say, not entirely correct.
 
Got it, thanks for your help. :smile:
 

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