Determine the sum of the given series:

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The discussion revolves around determining the sum of an infinite series, specifically the series starting from n=1 for the expression (3/4^(n-2)). Participants are exploring the properties of geometric series and how to apply the relevant formulas to this problem.

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  • Participants discuss the manipulation of the series expression and the application of geometric series formulas. Questions arise about the treatment of constants and the implications of multiplying by certain values. Some participants express confusion about how to properly apply the geometric series formula in this context.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and clarifications regarding the geometric series and its application. Some have reached an understanding of the solution, while others continue to explore the nuances of the series and its convergence.

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There is mention of different approaches to handling the series, including factoring out terms and considering the starting index of the series. Participants are also reflecting on the implications of the manipulations performed on the original expression.

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Sum starting from n=1 to infinity for the expression, (3/4^(n-2))

What the solutions manual has done is multiply the numerator and the denominator by 4.

12/(4^(n-1))

I don't know what they have done from here on:

12 / (1 - 1/4)

= 16

Can someone explain the solution? Thank you.
 
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It's a geometric series.
 
I'm having trouble seeing how to use the fact that it is a geometric series in the problem. Could you explain further?
 
Do you have a formula for the sum of a geometric series?
 
I know for a geometric series the formula is Sn = (a(1-r^n)) / 1-r and for an infinite geometric series S = a/1-r
 
OK then ... does ##\frac{12}{1-\frac{1}{4}}## look like one of those forms?
 
Well the rate is 4, and the first value, a, is 1/4. Also 12 fits no where into any of these formulas so 12/(1-1/4) doesn't look like either of the two formulas for geometric series.
 
Oh wait they are treating the entire expression as a geometric series not just the denominator. Is that it? Give me a second to see then.
 
Ok I get it now I am finally getting 16 as an answer. My question is now why don't they divide 16 by 4 to get the original value to which the series converges to. (because in the beginning they multiplied the entire expression by 4?)
 
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They multiplied both the numerator and denominator of the term inside the sum by 4, which is the same as multiplying the whole term inside the sum by 4/4=1. Multiplying by 1 doesn't change anything, so there is nothing to "undo". It goes $$\sum\limits_{n=1}^\infty\frac{3}{4^{n-2}}=\sum\limits_{n=1}^\infty1\cdot\frac{3}{4^{n-2}}=\sum\limits_{n=1}^\infty\frac{4}{4}\cdot\frac{3}{4^{n-2}}=\sum\limits_{n=1}^\infty\frac{12}{4^{n-1}}=\sum\limits_{n=1}^\infty12\cdot\frac{1}{4^{n-1}}=\sum\limits_{n=1}^\infty12\cdot(\frac{1}{4})^{n-1}$$ with the formula for the geometric series applied to the RHS.
Everything's equal, so ...
 
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Oh yes that is true the constant that is being multiplied is 1 not 4, so it won't change anything. Thank you for your help throughout this process; it is greatly appreciated!
 
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\sum_1^\infty \frac{3}{4^{n-2}}= \sum_1^{\infty} \frac{3}{16}\frac{1}{4^n}= \frac{3}{16}\sum_1^\infty \frac{1}{4^n}

BUT the formula for the sum of a geometric series: \sum_{n=0}^\infty a^n= \frac{1}{1- a} starts with n= 0, not n= 1. There are two ways to handle that.
1) factor a "1/4" out of the series:
\frac{3}{64}\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{1}{4^{n-1}}= \frac{3}{64}\sum_{i= 0}^\infty \frac{1}{4^i} where i= n-1.

2) Do the entire geometric series from 0 to infinity, then subtract off the n= 0 term:
\frac{3}{4}\sum_{n=0}^\infty \frac{1}{4^n}- \frac{3}{4}
since when n= 0, \frac{1}{4^n}= 1.
 
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Some texts give ##\sum\limits_{n=1}^\infty ar^{n-1}=\frac{a}{1-r}## as (one of) the formula(s) for the geometric series. Given the answer from the solutions manual, I'm guessing the topic creator is using one of those texts.
 

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