Determine the velocity of a particle in mass spectrometry

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The discussion revolves around determining the velocity of a particle in the context of mass spectrometry, specifically focusing on the relationships between potential energy and kinetic energy as the particle exits an accelerator.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to apply energy conservation principles but expresses uncertainty about the correct application of potential energy formulas. Some participants question the appropriateness of using certain equations for the scenario described.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the potential energy equations and their applicability to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the distinction between potential energy for a collection of charges versus a single particle in an external field.

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There is mention of specific values for voltage, magnetic field, mass, and charge, which may influence the discussion but are not fully explored. The original poster also notes confusion regarding the notation and terminology used in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement
V=3000V, B= 0,035 T, m = m = 2.10^(-26) kg, q = e
Relevant Equations
x
Hi, I am trying to determine the velocity of the particle with the mass m coming out of the acclerator.
I tried writing :
Ep(i) + Ec(i) = Ep(f) + Ec(f)
Ec(f) = Ec(i) - Ec(f)
But at this step, I'm no longer sure how to express Ep with V because :
In my textbook, it's written :
Ep = 0,5 (sigma(i) qiVi)
But I am not sure if I am supposed to put that 0,5 in this case or not, which would imply Ep = qV only.

Ep = potential energy
Ec = Kinetic energy
Sorry in advance if these aren't notations that are used in English.

Thank you so much for your help!
 
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duchuy said:
Homework Statement:: V=3000V, B= 0,035 T, m = m = 2.10^(-26) kg, q = e
Relevant Equations:: x

Ep = 0,5 (sigma(i) qiVi)
This is true for a collection of charges where the potentials are due to the same charges you are considering. This is to avoid double counting because in actuality the potentials are between pairs of charges. The text you are reading should explain this.

If you are considering a single particle in an external field, then potential energy is U = qV. This is an example of the need to understand formulae that you find and to make sure they are applicable.
 
Oh okay thank you sir!
 
A diagram would help in understanding what the symbols and the formulae mean.
I am not sure where the second formula
Ec(f) = Ec(i) - Ec(f), comes from.
 

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