Determine whether W is a subspace of the vector space

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The discussion revolves around determining whether the set W = {(x,y,z): x ≥ 0} is a subspace of the vector space V = R³. Participants are exploring the conditions necessary for W to qualify as a subspace, including closure under addition and scalar multiplication, as well as the inclusion of the zero vector.

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  • Participants discuss the necessary conditions for W to be a subspace, including testing for closure under addition and scalar multiplication. There are questions about the inclusion of the zero vector and the implications of the conditions being met.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the conditions that need to be checked, noting that W is not closed under scalar multiplication but is closed under addition and contains the zero vector. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these findings.

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Participants are considering the definitions and properties of subspaces, particularly focusing on the restrictions placed on the components of the vectors in W.

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1. Determine whether W is a subspace of the vector space.

W = {(x,y,z): x ≥ 0}, V = R3

I am not sure if I am doing this right.


2. Test for subspace.

Let these conditions hold.

1. nonempty
2. closed under addition
3. closed under scalar multiplication



3.

Testing for closure under addition:

Let a = (a1, a2, a3) and
Let b = (b1, b2, b3)

a + b = (a1, a2, a3) + (b1, b2, b3)

= (a1 + b1, a2 + b2, a3 + b3)

where x = a1 + b1, y = a2 + b2, z = a3 + b3.

= (x,y,z) Closure under addition.


Testing for closure under scalar multiplication:

(5,y,z) is in W, but
(-1)(5,y,z)
= (-5,-y,-z) is not in W.

Not closed under scalar multiplication.



Therefore, W is not a subspace of R3
 
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physics=world said:
1. Determine whether W is a subspace of the vector space.

W = {(x,y,z): x ≥ 0}, V = R3

I am not sure if I am doing this right.


2. Test for subspace.

Let these conditions hold.

1. nonempty
2. closed under addition
3. closed under scalar multiplication



3.

Testing for closure under addition:

Let a = (a1, a2, a3) and
Let b = (b1, b2, b3)

a + b = (a1, a2, a3) + (b1, b2, b3)

= (a1 + b1, a2 + b2, a3 + b3)

where x = a1 + b1, y = a2 + b2, z = a3 + b3.

= (x,y,z) Closure under addition.


Testing for closure under scalar multiplication:

(5,y,z) is in W, but
(-1)(5,y,z)
= (-5,-y,-z) is not in W.

Not closed under scalar multiplication.



Therefore, W is not a subspace of R3

Looks OK, except one of the things you should check is whether the set contains the zero vector. Your set is not a subspace because it's not closed under scalar multiplication. It is closed under addition, and does contain the zero vector.

One nit. You wrote "Let these conditions hold." You can't assume that these conditions are met. When you verify that a set is actually a subspace of the vector space it belongs to, you have to check that these conditions hold.
 
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How do I check for the zero vector?

I know that x can equal to zero, but how about y and z?
 
Unlike x, which is zero or larger, y and z are arbitrary - there are no restrictions on them. The vector <0, 0, 0> belongs to the set.
 

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