Determing torque so that I may determine the diameter of my axle

In summary, the conversation involved determining the various stresses on an axle with two loads being applied to it in order to determine a suitable diameter for the axle connecting the tires. The conversation also touched on topics such as reaction forces, moment, shear, bending, torsion or torque, and rolling resistance coefficient. The final goal was to use the von Mises criterion to determine the proper diameter for the axle. However, there were concerns about the calculated values being too large and the final diameter being too skinny.
  • #36
haruspex said:
In that case there is no torque.
Thought about this a bit more...
There are two sources of rolling resistance: frictional torque from the axle and deformation of the tyre/road. Both are proportional to the load, but we are given only the one coefficient.
What I wrote previously applies to the deformation component. It does not have a torque about the axle. Instead, it is a bit lke going uphill. The force from the road surface is not vertical, instead angling back against the direction of motion. The point on the ground it comes from is (on average) in front of the axle, so that the force line passes through the axle. So although it has no torque about the axle it contributes to the bending moment. Use Pythagoras to combine it with the vertical component you already have.
The frictional torque component will produce torque in the axle.
 
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  • #37
haruspex said:
Then you can simplify the picture. You have 250 down and 500 up at each of those points, so the net is 250 up.
Thinking about that some more...
We need to consider how the total 1000lb load is spread onto the four legs. If that part of the structure is more rigid than the rectangular frame with the bolts then almost the whole 1000lb will be borne by the parts of the frame above the axles. The midpoints of the other two sides will just flex down a little.
 
  • #38
Since the axle experiences both tensile and torsional stresses use principle stress equation to find the axle diameter
 

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