Determing Whether A Function Is A Solution To A Differential Equation

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The discussion revolves around determining whether a proposed function is a solution to a specific differential equation, y' - 2ty = 1. The function in question involves an integral that is not expressible in closed form, prompting participants to explore differentiation and the implications of the integral's properties.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the challenges of integrating the function and the implications of the integral not being in closed form. There are attempts to differentiate the proposed solution and substitute it back into the original differential equation. Questions arise about the definition of "closed form" and the nature of the integral involved.

Discussion Status

Some participants have suggested that the integral should be left as is, while others emphasize the importance of differentiating the proposed solution to check if it satisfies the differential equation. There is a recognition that the problem is asking for a demonstration rather than a straightforward solution.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the integral being a definite integral, which is treated as a constant, and discussions about potential miswriting in the original function. The participants are navigating through assumptions regarding the form of the solution and the nature of the integral involved.

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The differential equation: y' -2ty = 1.

The possible solution: [itex]y=e^{t^2} \int^6_0e^{-s^2}ds + e^{t^2}[/itex].

For the integral, I employed integration by parts:

Let [itex]u=e^{-s^2} \rightarrow du = -s2e^{-s^2}ds[/itex]

and

Let [itex]dv = ds \rightarrow v=s[/itex].

This lead to:

[itex][se^{-s^2}|^t_0 - \int_0^t -2s^2e^{-s^2}ds[/itex]

My first thought was to perform another integration by parts; however, after having run through the process in my mind, this would seem of no avail. What am I missing?
 
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Okay, so the point is you can't put that integral into closed form. Just leave it as it is. What you _can_ do is differentiate is. So what you want to do is simply differentiate your possible solution and put that back into the original differential equation.
 
How would you define "closed form?"
 
That function, [itex]e^{-x^2}[/itex] is well known NOT to have any elementary integrand. The "error function", erf(x), used in statistics and probability, is defined to be its integral and tables of the normal distribution are created using numerical integration.

In any case, there is no reason to actually do the integration- since it is a definite integral it is simply a constant. The problem is actually asking you to show that [tex]y(t)= Ce^{t^2}+ e^{t^2}= De^{t^2}[/tex]. where D= C+ 1, satisfies that equation. Differentiate that to find y', put it into the equation and see if the equation is satisfied.
(Note that the problem says "possible" solution.)
 
I don't think so, Halls. I think he just mis-wrote the first integral. It's supposed to be erf(t) not erf(6). Just look at his later calculations.

Anyway, what Halls said is basically what I meant. 'Closed form' means that you can write the integral in terms of elementary functions.
 
Okay, if it is in fact supposed to be [itex]y= e^{t^2}\int_0^t e^{-s^2}ds+ e^{t^2}[/itex], then use the "Fundamental Theorem of Calculus to differentiate:
[itex]y'= 2te^{t^2}\int_0^t e^{-s^2}ds+ e^{t^2}(e^{-t^2})+ 2te^{t^2}[/itex]
But "[itex]2t(e^{t^2}\int_0^t e^{-s^2}ds+ e^{t^2})[/itex]" is just [itex]2ty[/itex] and [itex]e^{t^2}e^{-t^2}= 1[/itex].
 

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