Determining flowrate (GPM) through a partially open gate valve

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The discussion revolves around determining the flow rate (in GPM) through a partially open gate valve in a drydock setting. Participants explore the application of fluid dynamics principles and formulas to estimate flow rates under different valve openings, specifically at 100% and 10% open positions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the setup involving a culvert and a 48" pipe connected to a gate valve, seeking to calculate flow rates for different valve openings.
  • Another participant provides a formula from Crane Technical Paper 410 for calculating flow rate (Q) based on the flow coefficient (C_v), pressure difference (ΔP), and fluid density (ρ).
  • There is a request for assistance in estimating the flow coefficient (C_v) for a specific valve, as the participant could not find this information.
  • A later reply suggests estimating C_v using a formula derived from Crane Technical Paper 410, which includes the Darcy friction factor and the pipe diameter.
  • Participants discuss the need to account for additional factors such as entrance and exit effects and the condition of the gate valve when partially open.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the use of the provided formulas for estimating flow rates, but there is no consensus on the specific value of C_v for the gate valve in question, as it has not been established whether it can be calculated from the valve's specifications.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the availability of the flow coefficient (C_v) from the valve manufacturer and the assumptions made regarding flow conditions, such as turbulence and the effects of partial valve opening.

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Hello all, trying to figure this out. I work at a shipyard and operate/maintain the drydock. The discharge tunnel that flows water out into the ocean has culverts about 24.5' x 15.5' x 8'. Connected to the bottom of the culvert is a 48" pipe that goes to a gate valve of the same diameter. If I were to drain a culvert full of sea water into a lower chamber, what would be the flow rate (in GPM) if the valve were @ 100% open and @ 10% open?

Thanks for looking!
 
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You may apply the following formula (Ref: Crane Technical Paper 410, 25th Printing, Equation 2-7):

Q = 7.9 C_{v} \sqrt{\Delta P / \rho}

where,

Q = flow rate in gpm
Cv = flow coefficient in gpm/psi
ΔP = pressure difference in psi = \rho g h for non-pumped elevation difference
\rho = fluid density in lb/ft^3 = 62.2 lb/ft^3 for ambient water
h = elevation difference between flowing sections

Note there are about 0.433 psi per foot of water column.

The Cv may be provided by the valve manufacturer. If you can find, let me know. I can help you estimate.
 
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edgepflow said:
You may apply the following formula (Ref: Crane Technical Paper 410, 25th Printing, Equation 2-7):

Q = 7.9 C_{v} \sqrt{\Delta P / \rho}

where,

Q = flow rate in gpm
Cv = flow coefficient in gpm/psi
ΔP = pressure difference in psi = \rho g h for non-pumped elevation difference
\rho = fluid density in lb/ft^3 = 62.2 lb/ft^3 for ambient water
h = elevation difference between flowing sections

Note there are about 0.433 psi per foot of water column.

The Cv may be provided by the valve manufacturer. If you can find, let me know. I can help you estimate.

Thanks for replying! I can't seem to find the Cv for this particular valve (Crane 54" cast iron gate valve). Is there a formula to calculate Cv from the specifications of the valve?
 
Sixdirty6 said:
Thanks for replying! I can't seem to find the Cv for this particular valve (Crane 54" cast iron gate valve). Is there a formula to calculate Cv from the specifications of the valve?
We can estimate from Crane Technical Paper 410. I have this at work. Will get back to you!
 
From Crane Technical Paper 410, 25th Printing, Appendix A, we will estimate Cv for the full open gate valve. The form loss factor is:

K_{1} = 8 f_{T}

where,

f_{T} = Darcy friction factor = 0.012 for 48" pipe in turbulent flow

And now,

C_{v} = 29.9 d^{2} / \sqrt{K_{1}}

Where d is the pipe ID in inches.

Try this, and see what you get. Then we can include the entrance and exit effects, straight pipe (if any) and the 10% open gate valve.
 

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