Determining Particle Acceleration in Uniform Electric Field

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The problem involves determining the position at which a proton and an electron, released from parallel plates in a uniform electric field, pass each other. The electric field has a magnitude of 640 N/C, and the plates are 4.0 cm apart. A secondary question involves a sodium ion and a chloride ion under similar conditions.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss finding the acceleration of the particles and how to apply kinematics to determine their positions as functions of time. There are questions about setting equations equal to find the time and position where the particles meet.

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Participants are exploring different approaches to set up equations based on the distance traveled by each particle. Some have suggested using kinematic equations, while others are clarifying the relationship between the distances traveled by the particles and the total distance between the plates. There is a productive dialogue about the setup of the equations needed to solve the problem.

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Participants are reminded to use standard units in their calculations, indicating a focus on proper measurement in the context of the problem.

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A uniform electric field of magnitude 640 N/C exists between 2 parallel plates that are 4.0 cm apart. A proton is released from the positive plate at the same instant an electron is released from the negative plate.

a) Determine the distance from the positive plate at which the two pass each other (ignore the elecric attraction between the proton and electron) b) What if? Repeat part a for a Sodium ion (Na+) and a chloride ion (CI-).
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I find the acceleration for both particles but I don't know where to go from there! help, please!
 
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Once you've found the acceleration this becomes a kinematics problem. Find expressions for the position of each particle (measured from the positive plate) as a function of time. Then you can solve for the time (and position) where they meet (and thus have the same position).

Give it a try.
 
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. xf=(1/2)at^2 for the proton and electron set equal to each other. find time and plug into find x?
 
mzmad said:
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. xf=(1/2)at^2 for the proton and electron set equal to each other. find time and plug into find x?
There are several ways to approach this, but that equation is the key. One way is to write two equations:
(1) The distance the positive particle moves from the positive plate in time t; that would be:
x1 = (1/2)(a1)t^2.
(2) The distance the negative particle moves from the negative plate in time t; similar, but call it x2.

When the particles meet, what must x1 + x2 equal? Use that to solve for the time, and then x1.

Make sense?
 
I little bit.
x1 +x2=0, so.. (1/2)a1t^2+(1/2)a2t^2=0...t= sqr root (1/2)(a1=a2)
 
mzmad said:
x1 +x2=0,
Not exactly. x1 + x2 = the total distance between the plates.

Say you live 10 miles from your friend. You both take off toward each other at different rates along the same path. When you meet you've traveled x1 miles and your friend has traveled x2 miles. What must x1 + x2 equal?
 
x1 +x2= the total distance travels ?
 
mzmad said:
x1 +x2= the total distance travels ?
Well, sure, but what does that equal? Give me an actual number.
 
4.0 cm!
 
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mzmad said:
4.0 cm!
Exactly! Now set up the equations and solve for t and then x_1.

Be sure to use standard units: 0.04 m.
 

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