Determining temperature of heat bath

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The discussion focuses on determining the temperature of a heat bath containing degenerate particles. It highlights that while exact temperature measurement is impossible, approximations can be made using properties such as energy levels and degeneracies. The conversation references the necessity of thermal equilibrium and the Boltzmann distribution for non-degenerate particles. A key formula presented for calculating temperature involves the relationship between entropy and internal energy, specifically T = (∂S/∂U)⁻¹_{V,N}.

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I have a bunch of degenerate particles in a heat bath, which I can "measure" some of their properties to approximate the temperature of the heat bath. Like energy at ground state, 2nd, etc, and their degeneracies.

But I was told that the exact temperature of the heat bath cannot be measured and only the approximation can be made.

I was reading my stats mechanics book and all I can find is something about thermal equilibrium requiring a Boltzmann distribution and a formulation to find Temperature of a heat bath of non-degenerate particles.

I tried searching the internet for some more information but I keep ending up with research papers that have nothing to do with my question.
 
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do some counting and calculate the multiplicity of the system in terms of some known qualities. then find the entropy and the temperature is equaled to:
T=\left ( {\frac{\partial S}{\partial U}}\right )^{-1}_{V,N}
 
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