Determining the center of mass experimentally

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around methods for experimentally determining the center of mass of an irregular solid with uniform density. Participants explore various techniques, including both practical and theoretical approaches, while expressing interest in alternatives to the commonly known plumb bob method.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests a method involving drilling holes in a ruler to find the center of mass by hanging it from various points until it remains stable.
  • Another participant expresses a desire for a more practical method and inquires about the plumb bob technique.
  • A different approach is proposed where the object is floated with a weight to find the center of mass through intersecting planes, although concerns about practicality are noted.
  • A participant describes the plumb bob method for 2-D objects, explaining how to find the center of mass by suspending the object and drawing lines from multiple suspension points.
  • For 3-D objects, a more complex version of the plumb bob method is suggested, involving projecting lines onto the object's surface to determine the center of mass.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a single method for determining the center of mass, as multiple competing views and techniques are presented, each with its own practical considerations and limitations.

Contextual Notes

Some methods discussed may depend on specific conditions, such as the shape and material of the object, and the practicality of obtaining necessary materials (e.g., mercury for floating). The effectiveness of the proposed methods may vary based on these factors.

JinM
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Hello!
How does one determine the center of mass of an irregular solid (with uniform density of course) experimentally? I know the plumb bob way, but I was wondering if there is another way?

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Jin
 
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there is another way I know, but you will have to drill the solid for this :)
Lets consider a ruler with holes on it (I know this aint ireegular but just for simplicity)
You hang the ruler from one of the holes to a pin and see if it makes a 180 degrees turn.
If it doesnt, then you hang it from another hole that's below the one u used for the previous trial. U continue doing this until the object makes a 180 degree turn. When u get the turn, u ang it from a hole that's above the one u got the turn.

If you can manage to hang it from the hole that's right at the center of mass of the soid, it will stay still and not make turns

I know that isn't much practical with an irregular solid but just an idea!
 
Well, is there a more practical way? I'm just interested in how to find it experimentally.
 
JinM said:
Well, is there a more practical way? I'm just interested in how to find it experimentally.

I don't know the plumb bob way. How does that work?

There is a way, but it's not always practical. You can float the object (plus a dangling weight) such that half the object is above and half below (this takes some calculating). Do this for several planes and they intersect at the CM. Now, where you get the liquid (mercury?) is another story.
 
TVP45 said:
I don't know the plumb bob way. How does that work?
This is fairly easy for a 2-d object. You just push a pin through the object (say, a cut-out map of Texas) and hang it on a cork board leaving it free to rotate. The CM will be below the suspension point, so hang a plumb bob from the pin and draw a line along the string that's suspending it. Repeat for another point of suspension, and then for a third, as a check. All the lines you've drawn should intersect at one point, which is the CM.

In 3-d you can do the same thing, it just gets tricker because the object isn't flat (in general), so you can't necessarily hang it against a board. I'd say just hang it from from various points on it surface, and then cleverly find a way to project a line from a plumb bob hanging right next to the object onto the surface of the object, such that the projected line goes through the point of suspension. (Laser? Spray paint?) You could to this for a single suspension point, while moving the plumb bob to different sides, and then repeat for different suspension points. You should end up with a bunch of lines drawn on the surface of the object. Connect their intersection points with imaginary lines through the interior of the object, and that should be your CM. Make sense?
 

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