Determining the Characteristic of a Field Containing Z_p

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The discussion revolves around the characteristics of fields containing the integers modulo p, denoted as Z_p. The original poster presents a theorem regarding the characteristics of fields and attempts to prove a corollary related to the implications of containing Z_p.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to prove that a field containing Z_p must have prime characteristic p, using algebraic reasoning about sums in different fields. Some participants question the necessity of certain statements made in the proof, particularly regarding the implications of sums equating to zero in different fields.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants confirming the correctness of the original poster's corollary while others seek clarification on specific aspects of the proof. There is an exploration of alternative proofs, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

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Participants are discussing the implications of distinct prime characteristics and the algebraic properties of Z_p and Z_q, which may lead to contradictions when both are present in the same field.

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[SOLVED] fields containing Z_p

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Here is a theorem in my book: "A field F is either of prime characteristic p and contains a subfield isomorphic to Z_p or of characteristic 0 and contains a subfield isomorphic to Q."


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Here is my corollary: "If a field contains a copy of Z_p, then it must be of prime characteristic p."
Here is the proof: If the field has prime characteristic q not equal to p, then it must contain a copy of Z_q. If q > p, then since the field contains Z_p, we have (p-1)+1 = 0, which is not true in Z_q. If the q < p, we have (q-1) + 1 = 0, which is not true in Z_p. Therefore, the field cannot contain Z_q where q is not equal to p. Furthermore, if the field contains Q, then (p-1)+1=0 is a contradiction. Therefore, the only possibility that the above theorem gives is that the characteristic is p.

Please confirm that this is correct.
 
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The corollary is correct, but I don't quite understand what you're doing when you say things like "(p-1)+1 = 0, which is not true in Z_q". I mean, why is this even necessary to state?
 
If the field contains both Z_p and Z_q, where q>p, then the algebra of Z_p requires that (p-1) and 1 sum to 0. But the algebra of Z_q requires that (p-1) and 1 sum to p which is a contradiction.

Do you have a better way to prove the corollary?
 
I guess I would just say, since p & q are distinct primes, p!=0 in Z_q. But it doesn't really matter, and what you did is fine.
 

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