Determining the Handedness of Circular Polarized Waves

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The discussion centers on determining the handedness of a circular polarized wave after it passes through a quarter-wave plate. The incident wave is polarized along the y-axis and propagates along the z-axis, with the fast axis of the plate oriented at 45 degrees to the x-axis. The key challenge is visualizing the wave's rotation to establish whether it is left-handed or right-handed. The user concludes that using their left hand to represent the transition from the slow axis to the fast axis results in a left-handed curl, suggesting that the wave is left-handed. However, they also consider the possibility that switching the fast and slow axes could indicate a right-handed circular polarization, highlighting the complexity of visualizing the polarization states.
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Homework Statement


A polarized wave in the y axis, propagates in the z axis and is incident to a quarter-wave plate. Viewing the down from -z to z, the fast axis is 45deg below the x-axis.

Determine the polarization of the beam immediately following the quart-wave plate.


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Conceptual Question, I am not using equations..


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The wave must be circular but I cannot visualize how to determine whether it is left handed or right handed. I realize that if you curl your fingers in the direction that it rotates, the hand with the thumb pointing in the direction of propagation is the handedness but I can't visualize how the wave curls coming out.
 
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Well, I thought about it as I drifted off to sleep last night and I was thinking that crossing from from the slow axis (which must be orthogonal in this case) to the fast axis with the left hand allows for the thumb to be pointed in the direction of propagation. By doing this, I get a left handed curl. Is this correct? So in this case, it doesn't matter where the wave is polarized, as long as it has a non-zero component for the fast axis and a non-zero component for the slow axis, right??

Here is the image I drew for what I am doing.
 

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I believe if you were to apply the image above to the problem I posted, the fast and slow axis must be switched giving a right handed circle, I think.
 
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