Determining the magnetic torque on a loop

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the magnetic torque on a rectangular current loop placed in a uniform magnetic field. The loop's dimensions and orientation relative to the magnetic field are specified, and participants explore the relationship between torque, current, area, and the angle involved.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the correct expression for torque, questioning the appropriate trigonometric function to use based on the angle's definition. There is an exploration of the angle's relationship to the normal of the loop's plane.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the angle's definition and its relation to the normal of the loop. There is a recognition of the connection between sine and cosine functions in the context of the problem, but no consensus on a final solution has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating feedback regarding trigonometric functions and the definitions of angles in relation to the magnetic field and the loop's orientation. The discussion reflects a learning process with varying interpretations of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement



A current I flows in a plane rectangular current loop with height a and horizontal sides b. The loop is placed into a uniform magnetic field \vec{B} in such a way that the sides of length a are perpendicular to \vec{B} (Part A 1 figure), and there is an angle \theta between the sides of length b and \vec{B} (Part A 2 figure).

Calculate \tau, the magnitude of the torque about the vertical axis of the current loop due to the interaction of the current through the loop with the magnetic field.
Express the magnitude of the torque in terms of the given variables. You will need a trigonomeric function [e.g., \sin(\theta) or \cos(\theta)]. Use B for the magnitude of the magnetic field.

Figure A 1
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Figure A 2
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Homework Equations



\tau=IAB\sin(\theta) (Assuming only 1 loop of wire)

The Attempt at a Solution



I know that the area is a{\cdot}b, the current is I, the field is B, and the angle is \theta. I put my answer in as

\tau=I(a{\cdot}b)B\sin(\theta)

the feedback on my answer said to check my trigonometry, so I changed my answer to be the cosine instead of the sine and it was correct. Why is this? What is theta supposed to be the angle in between?
 
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In the expression

<br /> \tau=IAB\sin(\theta)<br />

angle θ is the angle between the magnetic field and the normal to the plane of the loop.
 
kuruman said:
In the expression

<br /> \tau=IAB\sin(\theta)<br />

angle θ is the angle between the magnetic field and the normal to the plane of the loop.

so would the normal be a line perpendicular to the plane assuming its a top down view, like in figure 2?
 
Yes, it would be down and to the right in figure 2 as required by the right hand rule for the current shown. In short, it is the direction of the magnetic dipole moment associated with the current loop.
 
oh i see, so the equivalent answer would be IABsin(90-theta)) which is the same as IABcos(theta)?
 
Precisely.
 

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