Determining the spring constant from Force vs dL data

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The discussion revolves around determining the spring constant from a set of Force vs. extension (Δl) data for a spring. Participants are analyzing the relationship between the applied force and the resulting extension, questioning the consistency of the slope obtained from the plotted data.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss plotting a graph of Force vs. Δl and calculating the spring constant using the formula k = F/Δl. There are concerns about the inconsistency of the slope and varying k values obtained from different data points. Some participants inquire about the nature of these variations and potential explanations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their calculations for k and questioning the variations observed in their results. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation process, but no consensus has been reached on the reasons for the inconsistencies.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention that this problem is part of a pre-lab assignment involving a bosun's chair and a spring, which may introduce additional factors affecting the results.

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1. To the intelligent mind, need some help with the following:

Here is a table of the force applied to a spring and the resulting extension, Δl.

Force (N) Δl (m)
281 0.10
353 0.15
665 0.30
977 0.45
1049 0.50Plot a graph of Force vs. Δl.
What is the spring constant?2. F = -kx; U = .5kx^2 3. I figured this was pretty simple at first. But then, after plotting the data, I found that the slope is not consistent. Also, after rearranging for k and plugging in the values, I got a different k value every time.
Please help. Thanks
 
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tdoyzz said:
1. To the intelligent mind, need some help with the following:

Here is a table of the force applied to a spring and the resulting extension, Δl.

Force (N) Δl (m)
281 0.10
353 0.15
665 0.30
977 0.45
1049 0.50


Plot a graph of Force vs. Δl.
What is the spring constant?


2. F = -kx; U = .5kx^2


3. I figured this was pretty simple at first. But then, after plotting the data, I found that the slope is not consistent. Also, after rearranging for k and plugging in the values, I got a different k value every time.
Please help. Thanks


Can you fill out the table with the k values that you calculate? (Hint -- use the "code" tags to enclose the table to keep the columns lined up)

If there are variations in k, are they monotonic or more random? What explanations can you think of for the variations?
 
--deleted-- ...I like Berkeman's approach better.
 
Ok..

From the Table and using k=F/x:

Force (N) Δl (m) k (N/m)
281 0.10 2810
353 0.15 2353.3
665 0.30 2216.7
977 0.45 2171.1
1049 0.50 2098

Could the variations have something to do with the springs pot. energy?

This is a question on my pre-lab and I believe we are experimenting with a bosun's chair attached to a spring attached to the ceiling... if that helps.
 
Sorry for the columns not being lined up again... I'm new to this site.
 

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