Dichloromethane + Polycarbonate

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the use of dichloromethane (DCM) as a solvent for welding polycarbonate components, with a focus on understanding the chemical interactions involved and the potential for un-welding the components. Participants explore the nature of the weld, the process of dissolution, and the phenomenon of solvent crazing.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes a lack of expertise in chemistry and seeks information on the chemical reaction between DCM and polycarbonate, emphasizing the need for a clear understanding of the process.
  • Another participant explains that DCM dissolves polycarbonate, creating a thick adhesive fluid, and clarifies that the resulting weld is not a chemical reaction but rather a dissolution followed by drying.
  • There is mention of the difficulty in unwelding the components once dried, with uncertainty about whether it is possible at all.
  • A question is raised about the phenomenon of solvent crazing, prompting further clarification on its definition and implications.
  • A later reply describes solvent crazing as the rearrangement of the polymer structure, leading to cracks under stress, and provides an anecdote about polypropylene bottles shattering due to this effect.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the interaction between DCM and polycarbonate, with some emphasizing dissolution rather than a chemical reaction. The discussion on solvent crazing introduces additional complexity, but no consensus is reached on the implications of these phenomena.

Contextual Notes

The discussion lacks detailed chemical mechanisms and specific definitions, and there are unresolved questions regarding the reversibility of the welding process and the long-term effects of solvent crazing.

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First off I will say that chemistry is not my field of expertise so bear with me.

I am using dichloromethane to weld polycarbonate components together. We are trying to come up with a solution to un-weld the components when necessary. That said, by instruction, I am to completely understand the chemical reaction between this solvent and the component material.

What I do understand is that the resulting weld is purely polycarbonate. This is required since out-gassing of any other type of material is not desired (adhesives are out of the question).

I have searched numerous technical databases for an explanation of this reaction but have come up with virtually nothing. I was wondering if someone could point me in the direction of the information I am seeking or some sort of primer that explains how the reaction takes place.

Thank You!
 
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DCM dissolves the polycarbonate which produces a thick polycarbonate adhesive fluid containing DCM. The weld must dry to be made fast and once dried won't easily be unwelded if that is possible at all.

The method is also prone to solvent crazing from the solvent. So, no chemical reaction here, just dissolution followed by drying of the solvated plastic.
 
chemisttree said:
DCM dissolves the polycarbonate which produces a thick polycarbonate adhesive fluid containing DCM. The weld must dry to be made fast and once dried won't easily be unwelded if that is possible at all.

The method is also prone to solvent crazing from the solvent. So, no chemical reaction here, just dissolution followed by drying of the solvated plastic.

What exactly is solvent crazing?
 
gabriels-horn said:
What exactly is solvent crazing?

Solvent crazing is the rearrangement of the amorphous polymer into a more crystalline one. Any stress thereafter causes multiple cracks to form along the direction of the stress. These multiple small cracks are known as 'crazing'. In the lab I have seen polypropylene wash bottles containing acetone shatter when this solvent induced recrystallization gets bad enough. It takes years to occur but it is a bit of a shocker when you pick up a plastic solvent bottle and it shatters in your hand!
 

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