Did I Calculate the Work Done Correctly on an Inclined Plane?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done on a mass being dragged up an inclined plane, specifically addressing the effects of friction and gravitational forces. The problem involves a ramp with a 25-degree incline and a 50 kg mass, with a coefficient of kinetic friction provided.

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  • Participants explore different equations for calculating work, including the contributions from friction and gravitational forces. Some question the interpretation of specific equations and the assumptions made about the forces acting on the mass.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing various perspectives on the calculations involved. Some have offered clarifications on the equations used, while others express confusion about the application of forces and the interpretation of the problem statement.

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There are indications of uncertainty regarding the definitions of forces involved, particularly the applied force and its relation to the incline. Participants are also questioning the implications of negative work and the assumptions made about the direction of forces.

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[SOLVED] Plane facts, I

Is this right?

A ramp has an incline angle of 25 degress. How much work must you do if you are to drag a 50 kg mass a distance of 100m upward along the ramp? Assume that the coefficient of kinetic friction is uk = .35 and that you apply the force parallel to the plane.

uk mg cos(25) = (.35)(50)(9.8)cos(25) = 155N
Wfk = (155)(100)cos(180) = -15.5*10^3J

W = (100)(100)(1) = 1*10^4J

Wtot = 1*10^4 + 15.5*10^3 = 25.5*10^3J
 
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Not sure what the second equation (100)(100)(1) means
but you should have (friction force * linear distance) + (weight * vertical displacement)
 
Work

Assuming the coordinate system is established with the x-axis parallel with the ramp you would use the following:

W = F*d where

F = Fgravityx + Ff where

Fgravityx = mgsin(25)

Ff = u*N and

u = coefficient of friction
N = mgcos(25)

W = d(Fgravityx + Ff)

Hope this helps
 
Thank you for replying me.

The second statement is (Work = friction force * distance * cos 25 degrees)

When I get the answer, I found the total work done by adding the work done by friction and the work done by the force to get the total work done.

Is that right?
 
Work is always force * distance.
The easiest way is to consider both the force to overcome friction * the 100m distance
Plus the vertical force (weight) * the vertical displacement ( 100m * sin(25) )
 
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Thank you all so much.
Correct me if I am wrong.

Isn't Wgravity = mgh
and h = d sin(25)?

That should make Wnet = Wgravity + Wf + Wfk
Which should give you negative for Wnet, but work cannot be negative?
 
The work is due to the Force of gravity plus the Force of friction. Not sure what your third force is in your equation. Your equation is correct for the force due to gravity.
 
Thank you for replying back so quick.
I am a little confused, the question asked to assume that you apply the force parallel to the plane. So I made the constant force applied equal to the distance (100N).
So, that third force was the work done by the force applied. Am I reading the question right, or should I remove the third force?
 

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