Did I Find the Correct Vector Function for the Curve Intersection?

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The discussion revolves around finding a vector function that represents the curve of intersection between a paraboloid and a parabolic cylinder. The surfaces in question are defined by the equations z = 4x^2 + y^2 and y = x^2.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore different parameterizations of the equations, with one participant initially combining the equations and expressing z in terms of y. Another participant suggests re-evaluating the approach by expressing z in terms of x instead. There is a discussion about the implications of squaring the square root function and the definition of the square root.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the correct parameterization for the vector function. Some participants provide feedback on the attempts made, with one indicating that the latest formulation appears correct while another emphasizes the importance of understanding the square root function's properties.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the definitions of the functions involved and the implications of their manipulations. There is an acknowledgment of potential pitfalls in the initial approach regarding the treatment of the square root function.

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Homework Statement



Find a vector function that represents the curve of intersection of the two surfaces:

The paraboloid z = 4x^2 + y^2
The parabolic cylinder y = x^2


Homework Equations



z = 4x^2 + y^2
y = x^2

The Attempt at a Solution



Combining the two equations:

z = 4(sqrt(y))^2 + y^2
z = 4y + y^2

Choose a parameter:
Let y = t
z = 4t + t^2

Therefore:

x = sqrt(t)
y = t

I get the equation:

r(t) = (sqrt(t))i + (t)j + (4t + t^2)k

Is this correct or did I do something wrong?
Any help appreciated, thanks!
 
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Hi 1st1, welcome to PF!:smile:

1st1 said:
Combining the two equations:

z = 4(sqrt(y))^2 + y^2
z = 4y + y^2

Careful,

[tex]\sqrt{y^2}=|y|=\left\{ \begin{array}{lr} y & , y \geq 0 \\ -y & , y<0 \end{array} \right.[/tex]

Instead of introducing this [itex]\pm[/itex] sign problem, try writing [itex]z[/itex] in terms of [itex]x[/itex] instead.
 
Hey gabba, thanks for the welcome.

I see what you mean but sqrt(y) is being squared so regardless of a positive or negative output it will be squared afterwards which would give me positive y either way. Correct me if I am overlooking something.

Anyway, here is the work in terms of x:

z = 4x^2 + (x^2)^2
z = 4x^2 + x^4

Let x = t
z = 4t^2 + t^4
x = t
y = t^2

r(t) = (t)i + (t^2)j + (4t^2 + t^4)k

Is this correct?

Thanks again.
 
The reason that sqrt(y^2)=|y|, is that, by definition, the sqrt() function always returns a positive value.

Other than that, your solution looks good to me!:approve:
 
Sounds good, thank you.
 

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