Tangent vector on the intersection of surfaces

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The problem involves finding a unit tangent vector to the curve formed by the intersection of the surfaces defined by the equations \(x^2+y^2 = 2\) and \(y=z\) at the point \((1,1,1)\). The subject area pertains to multivariable calculus and vector analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss parametrizing the surfaces to derive a vector for the curve. There are questions about the implications of choosing different signs in the parametrization of \(x\), specifically regarding the representation of points on the ellipse formed by the intersection.

Discussion Status

Some participants express confidence in the initial approach taken to find the tangent vector, while others suggest that visualizing the curve could provide further insight. The discussion includes exploration of different parametrization choices and their geometric interpretations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the curve is formed by the intersection of a right circular cylinder and a plane, and there is mention of symmetry in the resulting ellipse. The discussion reflects on the implications of the chosen parametrization on the points represented in different octants.

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Homework Statement


The surfaces ##x^2+y^2 = 2## and ##y=z## intersect in a curve ##C##. Find a unit tangent vector to the curve ##C## at the point ##(1,1,1)##.

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The Attempt at a Solution


So I'm thinking that we can parametrize the surfaces to get a vector for the curve ##C##.

Let ##z=t##. Then ##y=t##. Then ##x = \sqrt{2-t^2}##. So we have a vector for the curve ##C##, ##\vec{r} (t) = \langle \sqrt{2-t^2}, t,t \rangle##. Then ##\vec{r}' (t) = \langle \frac{-t}{\sqrt{2-t^2}}, 1,1 \rangle##, and ##\vec{r}' (1) = \langle -1, 1,1 \rangle##. Then re-scaling to get a unit vector, we get ##\langle \frac{-1}{\sqrt{3}}, \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}},\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}} \rangle##. Is this the correct answer?
 
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Mr Davis 97 said:

Homework Statement


The surfaces ##x^2+y^2 = 2## and ##y=z## intersect in a curve ##C##. Find a unit tangent vector to the curve ##C## at the point ##(1,1,1)##.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


So I'm thinking that we can parametrize the surfaces to get a vector for the curve ##C##.

Let ##z=t##. Then ##y=t##. Then ##x = \sqrt{2-t^2}##. So we have a vector for the curve ##C##, ##\vec{r} (t) = \langle \sqrt{2-t^2}, t,t \rangle##. Then ##\vec{r}' (t) = \langle \frac{-t}{\sqrt{2-t^2}}, 1,1 \rangle##, and ##\vec{r}' (1) = \langle -1, 1,1 \rangle##. Then re-scaling to get a unit vector, we get ##\langle \frac{-1}{\sqrt{3}}, \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}},\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}} \rangle##. Is this the correct answer?
I don't see anything wrong with your work.

It might be helpful to sketch a graph of the curve C. Since it is formed by the intersection of a right circular cylinder whose central axis is along the z-axis, with the plane y = z, the curve of intersection is an ellipse.
 
Mark44 said:
I don't see anything wrong with your work.

It might be helpful to sketch a graph of the curve C. Since it is formed by the intersection of a right circular cylinder whose central axis is along the z-axis, with the plane y = z, the curve of intersection is an ellipse.
Also, one thing. What's the difference between letting ##x = -\sqrt{2-t^2}## and letting ##x = \sqrt{2-t^2}##?
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
Also, one thing. What's the difference between letting ##x = -\sqrt{2-t^2}## and letting ##x = \sqrt{2-t^2}##?
You'll get one side or another of the ellipse I mentioned, which is symmetric across the y-z plane. With the positive root, you get points in the first octant (really, on the "front" side of the y-z plane; if z < 0, the curve isn't in the first octant any more). With the negative root, you get points on that back side of the y-z plane.
 

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