Did i find the derivative correctly?

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The discussion revolves around finding the first and second derivatives of the function (x+1)^2/(1+x^2). The original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculations and seeks confirmation of their results.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to differentiate the function but questions the correctness of their approach. Some participants suggest the use of the quotient rule for differentiation, while others mention alternative methods such as partial fraction decomposition and trigonometric substitution.

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Participants are exploring different methods for differentiation, with some guidance provided on the use of the quotient rule and the product rule. There is an acknowledgment of various approaches to tackle the problem, but no consensus on a single method has been reached.

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There is a mention of the original poster's current learning limitations, indicating that they have not yet covered the quotient rule in their studies. This may affect their ability to apply the suggested methods effectively.

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Hi there,
Just wondering if i found dy/dx of (x+1)^2/1+x^2 = 2(x+1)/2x and also the second derivative d^2 y/dx^2=(x+1)/2
Is that correct?? I don't think it is.
 
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dejan said:
Hi there,
Just wondering if i found dy/dx of (x+1)^2/1+x^2 = 2(x+1)/2x and also the second derivative d^2 y/dx^2=(x+1)/2
Is that correct?? I don't think it is.

No its not the derivative of a quotient is not equal to the quotient of the derivatives. Have you learned the quotient rule for differentiating these kinds of functions?
 
Aww i have to use the quotient rule?? *sigh*
Well we didn't go that far:( More work! Thanks anyway!
 
dejan said:
Aww i have to use the quotient rule?? *sigh*
Well we didn't go that far:( More work! Thanks anyway!

Well, you don't *have* to. You can use one of multiple methods,

for example, partial fraction decomposition into elementary functions with complex factors in the denominator.

Or even substitute [tex]x = tan \theta[/tex] simplify with trig identities first, then observe that [tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{\frac{dy}{d\theta}}{\frac{dx}{d\theta}}[/tex]

There are many way to skin a cat. :wink:
 
Have you learned the product rule? The quotient rule is just a special case of the product rule.

Your function is a product of [tex](x+1)^2[/tex] and [tex](1+x^2)^{-1}[/tex]
 
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Yeah we've learned the product rule, chain and all...just that we have to graph that, but doing it without a graphics calculator.
I think i get it now.
 

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