Diff. Eq. related to SHM question

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This problem relates to simple harmonic motion (SHM) and involves the mathematical representation of undamped free vibrations of a mass on a spring. The original poster is attempting to understand the reduction of one trigonometric expression to another.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to reduce the equation l = Acos(wt) + Bsin(wt) to Rcos(wt - δ) using trigonometric identities and questions the steps involved in this reduction. Some participants suggest specific values for A and B in terms of δ, while others encourage reversing the process to understand the relationship better.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and suggestions for approaching the problem. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding the reduction process, and some participants express a willingness to assist without implying a resolution has been reached.

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The original poster notes that they are working through elementary problems from basic principles and are not doing this for class, which may influence their approach and understanding of the material.

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This problem relates to a mass on a spring, or most any SHM. For an undamped free vibration, I can solve the problem and reduce it to this equation:

l = Acoswt + Bsinwt (1)

I know the equation is correct. I also know that the above equation reduces to:

Rcos(wt -\delta) (2)

Sad to say, I can not figure out how 1 reduces to 2 (though simple it should be)! There is the trig identity

cos(x-y) = cosx*siny + sinx*cosy

but I am uncertain as to whether this helps in this particular case. I also believe that

R^2 = A^2 + B^2

and so putting everything together I *should* be able to reduce 1 to 2, but alas have failed. If someone can explain the steps, that would be appreciated :)
 
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Can you reduce (2) TO (1)?

If so, then work it in reverse.
 
Hi astropi,

I'll give you the important info to start you off!

What you can say is that A = asin(\delta), and B = acos(\delta). By doing this, you introduce the variable \delta. Take a couple of minutes to make sure that setting A and B equal to these values makes sense in your head.

You can then say: A^2 + B^2 = a^2 (sin^2(\delta) + cos^2(\delta)) = a^2 so that a=sqrt(A^2 + B^2).

Hopefully you can see where this is going, so I'll let you have a go at finishing!
 
Hi Sammy, although I should be able to reduce 2 to 1, for some reason I do not see it.

davo: thanks, I know that's how you get "a", or "R" as I called it in my expression. However, I've been tinkering with the formula trying to reduce it to the final expression using a trig identity and this apparently does not work.

By the way, if it makes a difference, I'm not doing this for class. I'm working out various elementary problems (such as SHM) from basic principles, and sadly became stuck in the math here! Rather than skip some steps I'm trying to be as thorough as possible. It's a bit embarrassing to ask for help with something so trivial, but oh well :)
 
Use the identity \cos (\alpha - \beta) = \cos \alpha \cos \beta + \sin \alpha \sin \beta where \alpha = \omega t and \beta = \delta.
 
Right, I see where I went wrong. Thanks everyone, and sorry to ask such a trivial question :)
I appreciate your help.
 
There's no such thing as a trivial question!
 

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