Difference between 2nd and 3rd edition of Physics by Halliday & Resnick

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The discussion revolves around the differences between the 2nd and 3rd editions of the textbook "Physics" by Halliday and Resnick. Participants explore the implications of newer editions in terms of content changes, potential improvements, and the value of purchasing the later edition compared to sticking with the earlier one.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the value of upgrading from the 2nd to the 3rd edition, noting that earlier editions are often considered superior for math books due to fewer changes.
  • Another participant suggests that later editions are generally better because they correct typos from previous versions, but acknowledges the close release dates make it hard to justify the upgrade unless required by a course.
  • A different participant expresses skepticism about the differences between the 2nd and 3rd editions, stating that significant errors have persisted across multiple editions and questioning the overall utility of the book for deep understanding of physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the 3rd edition offers substantial improvements over the 2nd edition. There are competing views regarding the value of newer editions and the presence of errors in the text.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention specific issues with the content of Halliday and Resnick's textbooks, including erroneous claims and treatment of certain topics, which may influence their opinions on the editions.

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Was wondering what is the difference between the 2nd and 3rd ed of Physics by Resnick and Halliday?
I know for the most part, at least for mathbooks, the earlier edition the better, and that there is ussually few changes in newer edition.

However, I already own the 2nd edition (Blue Cover) and I remember reading that some editions take or gain derivations and some are written better than others. Should I spend 5 dollars on the 3rd ed (green) or is my copy superior?
 
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In general, later editions are always considered better because they've supposed fixed any typos from the previous version. However, since these versions are so close together its hard to say whether its worth it to get the later version unless your teacher is assigning problems from the later version.
 
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Halliday and Resnick is currently in its 10th edition. I wouldn't get too excited over the difference between the 2nd and 3rd. If you've already read and studied H&R, I doubt you'll get much more out of a later edition. There is totally erroneous or bungled material that has persisted through multiple editions. (Examples are their claim to have proved conservation of angular momentum from Newton's laws, and their brain-dead treatment of dynamics in special relativity.) If you want to understand physics deeply, there is no edition of H&R that will help you.
 
Thank you Jedi n bcr, I have a copy of kolenkow mechanics. I wanted to start reading it during the break, however, I have to take EnM next semester, and our school uses Serway. I found the book extremely verbose, so I studied from my copy of Resnick (1960 something).

I would study from kolenkow during the summer, but I'm a math major and I'm falling linear algebra (large part due to incompetent instructor, however it is on me to learn the material). Most likely I'll have to repeat linear algebra.

Thanks.
 
MidgetDwarf said:
Thank you Jedi n bcr, I have a copy of kolenkow mechanics. I wanted to start reading it during the break, however, I have to take EnM next semester, and our school uses Serway. I found the book extremely verbose, so I studied from my copy of Resnick (1960 something).

I would study from kolenkow during the summer, but I'm a math major and I'm falling linear algebra (large part due to incompetent instructor, however it is on me to learn the material). Most likely I'll have to repeat linear algebra.

Thanks.

For linear algebra, this free book is awesome: http://joshua.smcvt.edu/linearalgebra/

For E&M, the classic is Purcell. There is a new edition that is updated and relatively inexpensive. The first edition is also free online because it was developed under an NSF grant. You can get a pdf from sites such as http://gen.lib.rus.ec/ .
 
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Thank you both. Had my gf buy purcell for me (vbirthday is coming up). Took a look at the linear book. Really easy to understand. We are using Anton and the explanations are not always clear. I think I am going to fail this class. Few teachers adviced me that I was going to teach myself(eeven had one got mad at me because i wouldn't listen lol). Very smart guy, very active in the mathematical community (wtwrites papers that have been referenced/as a teacher not so great).ll study and try to do the best I can tho.

This experience was an eye opener, and I'm glad I was put into this situation. Just means I need to work a lot harder and smarter. So when semester ends I need to go through a proof book. (II have 2/How to Prove It and Mathematical Proofs a Transition to Advanced Mathematics). Work out of Heffron. Sorry for the rant. Just kinda bummed out that I always understood something if I put in the time. First thing to ever go over my head.
 

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