Difference between a post doc and a doc?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the differences between a postdoctoral position (post doc) and a doctoral degree (doc), including the necessity and appeal of pursuing a post doc after obtaining a doc. The scope includes conceptual clarification and career implications in academia.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants explain that a post doc is a temporary research position lasting 1-3 years, typically pursued to gain experience and publications before applying for tenure track positions.
  • There is a suggestion that while a post doc is common, it is not strictly necessary to have a doctoral degree (doc) to pursue an academic career, as some professors have succeeded without one.
  • A later reply questions whether the post doc occurs after obtaining the doc, indicating a need for clarity on the sequence of academic qualifications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of a post doc, with some suggesting it is beneficial for career advancement while others indicate it is not a strict requirement.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of consensus on the necessity of a post doc and the varying experiences of individuals in academia regarding the path to tenure track positions.

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Hi Everyone,

Could someone explain the difference between a post doc and a doc? Is doing a post doc neccesary? Is it something that's appealing?
 
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A post doc is a temporary short term (1-3years) contract research post.

You do a couple of post docs to gain experience and publications before getting a tenure track position which leads (hopefully) to a permanent job.
 


mgb_phys said:
A post doc is a temporary short term (1-3years) contract research post.

You do a couple of post docs to gain experience and publications before getting a tenure track position which leads (hopefully) to a permanent job.

So is this after you get your doc?
 


Yes.
Although there is no actual requirement to get a doc, I know a couple of professors that never got one but it's increasingly rare.
 

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