Difference between differentiating a function and an equation

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The discussion centers on the distinction between differentiating a function and differentiating an equation, exploring the implications of each approach within the context of calculus. Participants examine the definitions and conditions under which differentiation is applied, as well as the conceptual frameworks that differentiate functions from equations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that differentiating a function is a special case of implicit differentiation, where the function is explicit with respect to other variables.
  • Others argue that differentiation is defined for functions, not equations, emphasizing that one differentiates the functions on either side of an equation.
  • One participant notes that only identities can be meaningfully differentiated, as equations are typically valid for a limited set of values, which may lead to different roots upon differentiation.

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Participants express differing views on the appropriateness and implications of differentiating equations versus functions, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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There are limitations in the definitions and conditions under which differentiation is applied, as well as the implications of differentiating equations versus functions. The discussion does not resolve these complexities.

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What is the difference? I always see differentiate a function but never an equation, a lot of exercises have y=blahblah which is an equation. Does it just mean that when you're asked to differentiate the equation (without using implicit), that it is satisfies the conditions for a function?
 
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What is the difference? I always see differentiate a function but never an equation, a lot of exercises have y=blahblah which is an equation. Does it just mean that when you're asked to differentiate the equation (without using implicit), that it is satisfies the conditions for a function?

The difference is that the function case is a special case of the general case of implicit differentiation: your function is explicit with respect to the rest of the variables.

It's basically akin to the difference of say d/dx(f) instead of say d/dx(f*x) where first is df/dx and the second is x*df/dx + f.

Again its best if you think of a function as just another variable (this is it all it is) and that instead of the variable f being inter-twined where it can't be easily algebraically separated, it is explicit which means you can put f on one side and all the other variables on the other.
 
The reason you only see "differentiate a function" is that is the way differentiation is defined. You don't differentiate an equation, you differentiate the functions on the two sides of the equals sign.
 
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^ Ooh, ok, thank you!
 
Only identities can be differentiated meaningfully. Equations are usually valid only for a select number of unknown values, and the "differentiated equation" may have a completely different set of roots. For example: [tex]3x = x^2 + 2[/tex]has roots [tex]x = 1, 2[/tex]However, differentiating, we have[tex]3 = 2x[/tex] where the root is [tex]x = \frac 3 2[/tex] This is why it rarely makes sense to differentiate equations (unless we are talking about functional equations).
 

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