Difference between lim as x→∞ and lim as |x|→∞

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The discussion clarifies the difference between the limits \(\lim_{|x|\to\infty} x\sin\frac{1}{x}\) and \(\lim_{x\to\infty} x\sin\frac{1}{x}\). The former implies that the limit is evaluated as \(x\) approaches infinity from both positive and negative directions, suggesting symmetry in the function's behavior. In contrast, the latter focuses solely on positive infinity. The notation \(|x|\) is particularly relevant in complex analysis, where limits can be approached from any direction in the complex plane. The limits are equal to 1, as confirmed by graph analysis.

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I came across something I'd never seen before, the use of |x| instead of just ‘x’ in limits.
What is the difference between \displaystyle\lim_{|x|\to\infty}x\sin\frac{1}{x} and \displaystyle\lim_{x\to\infty}x\sin\frac{1}{x} ?
Is there any difference when evaluating them? Is that notation used only with infinity?

Thanks.
 
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It seems like it's implying that the limit as x goes to infinity is equal to the limit as x goes to negative infinity. But someone who has actually seen this notation before might know better, I'm just guessing.
 
I haven't seen limits as |x|→∞, but I have seen limits as x→±∞ or limits as x→∞ with this meaning. In the latter case they distinguished limits as x→+∞ and as x→-∞. I think they pictured ∞ as a single point outside the line, making it a circle, its Alexandroff compactification, considering limits as x→+∞ and as x→-∞ as the lateral limits towards ∞.

About the limits as |x|→∞, I think it could be generalized in the following way. We may say that f(x)→a as g(x)→b if, for any neighborhood U of a, there exists a neighborhood V of b such that f(g-1(V\{b}))⊆U. Also f(x)→a as g(x)→∞ if, for any neighborhood U of a, there exists M>0 such that f(g-1((M,∞)))⊆U, and similar definitions.
 
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I see two different ways of interpreting "limit as |x| goes to infinity". First would be that "limit as x goes to infinity" and"limit as x goes to -infinity" must be the same. The other would be that x represents a point in the plane or a complex number and x goes away from the origin in any direction.
 
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What is the difference between \displaystyle\lim_{|x|\to\infty}x\sin\frac{1}{x} and \displaystyle\lim_{x\to\infty}x\sin\frac{1}{x} ?
Is there any difference when evaluating them? Is that notation used only with infinity?
The first notation only really makes sense if you consider 'x' to be a complex variable. In this case, taking the limit at infinity means asking whether the function approaches a fixed value no matter which direction you approach infinity from.

The second notion on the other hand can be used if x is real and you are simply going to "positive" infinity.

At infinity, functions of complex variables generally either have a finite limit, or else a pole. They could also have an essential singularity (O~o) as well. And if the function is multi-valued, it will almost always have a (irregular) branch point there.
 
Thank you all.

Yes, I also thought that it says that the limit as x→+∞ and as x→-∞ are the same. Indeed, I did look at the graph of the funcion x sin(1/x) before asking, and these limits are both equal to 1. I also noticed there's symmetry in the graph, I thought it may have something to do with that, too. I posted the question in the hope of getting more info on the scope of this notation.

Just for reference I saw the notation here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Hopital%27s_rule
In the section ‘Other ways of evaluating limits’
 

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