Difference between small and big outboard motors

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the differences between small and large outboard motors, specifically focusing on horsepower, propeller speed, and the mechanics of power transmission in marine engines. Participants explore the factors that influence motor performance and propeller design.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the primary difference between a 5 Hp and a 150 Hp outboard motor is the speed at which the propeller turns.
  • Another participant counters that horsepower and RPM are not the only factors, emphasizing that propeller diameter also plays a significant role in performance.
  • A third participant elaborates on the relationship between power, thrust, and propeller design, noting that increasing propeller diameter can transmit more power without necessarily increasing RPM.
  • Concerns are raised about the feasibility of using gears to increase propeller speed, with a participant explaining that doubling RPM would halve the torque, referencing mechanical advantage.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the primary factors that differentiate small and large outboard motors, with no consensus reached on the effectiveness of using gears to increase propeller speed.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss various assumptions regarding power transmission, propeller mechanics, and the implications of RPM and torque, but these assumptions remain unresolved.

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I was just thinking about something regarding outboard motors. I'm thinking the only thing that differs say a 5 Hp one from one with say 150 Hp is how fast the propeller turns - after all, it's the only part that interacts with the water. So why can't you just use gears to make a small engine turn the propeller really fast?
 
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rpm is one factor, but power is another. It takes work to move mass.
 
TSN79 said:
I'm thinking the only thing that differs say a 5 Hp one from one with say 150 Hp is how fast the propeller turns

Not true. The propeller's diameter also plays a roll. According to http://www.vicprop.com/propeller101.htm#4:

In general, horsepower available and shaft speed determine the propeller diameter, while shaft speed and boat speed determines propeller pitch.

The way to look at it is this way: Power is the product of force and speed (or torque and rpm, if in rotation or pressure and flow if in hydraulic, etc.). The propeller transforms the «shaft» power of the engine into «thrust» power of the water it displaces. Roughly, the «thrust» power is the product of the «thrust» pressure and the quantity of water displaced in 1 second. Yes, the higher the rpm, the more water is displaced, but other factors comes into play such as propeller diameter. So you could increase the diameter without increasing the rpm and still transmit more power.

Now, by increasing your power, do you want to increase your speed or the load you can push? That is where the «shaft speed and boat speed determines propeller pitch» statement comes into play: The pitch acts just like a gearbox on car, you can transmit all your power in 1st gear at slow speed with a great force or in 5th gear at high speed but with a much smaller force.
 
TSN79 said:
So why can't you just use gears to make a small engine turn the propeller really fast?
If you double the rpm, the torque gets cut in half. Google mechanical advantage.
 

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