Difference between the Higgs field and the Inflaton field?

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The discussion revolves around the differences and potential connections between the Higgs field and the Inflaton field, exploring theoretical implications, their roles in cosmology, and the nature of their interactions. The scope includes conceptual reasoning and theoretical models related to inflation and particle physics.

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  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the Inflaton field must be "turned off" after inflation ends, while the Higgs field does not have a mechanism for being turned off.
  • Others suggest a possible relationship where the Inflaton field could be turned off by the Higgs field turning on, speculating about a unified field whose value could reverse.
  • There is mention of the mass of the Inflaton field being significantly higher than that of the Higgs field, with estimates around 10^11-10^13 GeV, leading to questions about their differences.
  • Some participants believe that the Higgs field and the Inflaton field could be one and the same, referencing external literature to support this view.
  • One participant discusses the Higgs field's role in the context of inflation, noting that it can be considered as a model inflaton under certain conditions, despite not producing the correct cosmic microwave background (CMB) fluctuations.
  • There is interest in modifying the Higgs sector to potentially make it a viable candidate for inflation through additional gravitational couplings and non-standard kinetic terms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion contains multiple competing views regarding the relationship and differences between the Higgs field and the Inflaton field. There is no consensus on whether they are distinct entities or if they could be unified.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the mechanisms involved in the Higgs field and its potential role in inflation, as well as the implications of their respective masses. The discussion reflects a variety of theoretical perspectives without resolving the underlying complexities.

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Well for one thing, the Inflaton field needs to be turned off somehow (since inflation ended), but as far as I know there is no way to turn the Higgs field off.
 
nicksauce said:
Well for one thing, the Inflaton field needs to be turned off somehow (since inflation ended), but as far as I know there is no way to turn the Higgs field off.

Or, perhaps the inflaton field is turned off by the Higgs field turning on. For it seems the more mass the universe has the more tendency there would be to contract instead of expand. Could it all be one field whose value reverses?
 
I think people also think the inflaton mass in something like 10^11-10^13 GeV, so the Higgs is too light. I forget the exact reasoning here though.
 
Are the 3 generations of mass for electrons, muon, and tau, for example, due to a difference in how the Higgs field interacts with the an electron? And is the decay of the tau to the muon to an electron due to how the higgs mechanism to a base particle?
 
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nicksauce said:
Well for one thing, the Inflaton field needs to be turned off somehow (since inflation ended), but as far as I know there is no way to turn the Higgs field off.
I'm not quite sure I understand this. Inflation is caused by any field that is sufficiently dominated by its potential (vacuum energy). This is true of the Higgs field in its false vacuum state. The present universe, however, is not in the Higgs false vacuum, but in some true vacuum that breaks the electroweak symmetry. In this sense, the Higgs field is very much "off", its nonzero VEV notwithstanding. From a conceptual point of view, then, there is nothing wrong with considering the Higgs as a model inflaton: the field starts in the false vacuum during which time the universe inflates, and then rolls down to the true vacuum, at which time the universe stops inflating.

The electroweak Higgs was originally eyed as a potential inflaton candidate, but it doesn't give the right CMB fluctuations. There is much present interest in adding gravitational couplings and non-standard kinetic terms to the electroweak Higgs sector to render a Higgs field viable for inflation.
 
bapowell said:
I'm not quite sure I understand this. Inflation is caused by any field that is sufficiently dominated by its potential (vacuum energy). This is true of the Higgs field in its false vacuum state. The present universe, however, is not in the Higgs false vacuum, but in some true vacuum that breaks the electroweak symmetry. In this sense, the Higgs field is very much "off", its nonzero VEV notwithstanding. From a conceptual point of view, then, there is nothing wrong with considering the Higgs as a model inflaton: the field starts in the false vacuum during which time the universe inflates, and then rolls down to the true vacuum, at which time the universe stops inflating.

The electroweak Higgs was originally eyed as a potential inflaton candidate, but it doesn't give the right CMB fluctuations. There is much present interest in adding gravitational couplings and non-standard kinetic terms to the electroweak Higgs sector to render a Higgs field viable for inflation.


Hmmm... perhaps I had misunderstood the problem then.
 

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