Difference in Wave Phase Question

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving two speakers emitting sound waves and the resulting interference patterns. The original poster presents two parts: the first part asks for the frequency of sound based on interference maxima observed at specific positions, while the second part involves calculating the phase difference when the speakers have different phase constants.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between distance and wavelength in the context of interference maxima. There is discussion about whether the wavelength remains constant between the two parts of the problem.

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Some participants have offered guidance on the calculations, particularly regarding the phase difference and the correct interpretation of distances between maxima. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly concerning the wavelength and phase constants.

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There is confusion regarding the distances used in calculations, with participants questioning the assumptions made about the wavelength and the relationship between the positions of the speakers and the observed interference patterns.

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Homework Statement


A. Two identical speakers, with the same phase constant, are arranged along a 1D track. One speaker remains at the origin. The other speaker can slide along the track to any position x. You are on the track at x=10 m. You hear interference maxima when the adjutable speaker's position is 0.6 m and 1.2 m and at no points in between. What is the frequency of the sound from the speakers in Hz?
B. The speakers are now allowed to have different phase constants. They are adjusted so that you hear interference maxima when the adjustable speaker is at x = 0.6 m and again when it is at x = 1.05 m. What is the difference in the phase constant between the two speakers in rad?

Homework Equations


velocity = wavelength * frequency
delta phi = phi2 - phi1 = (2pi * delta x)/wavelength

The Attempt at a Solution


The wavelength in part A would be 0.6m because that's the distance between the maximum interference, giving me frequency = 343m/s / 0.6m = 571.67Hz (correct).
I could not get B correctly though. Using the difference in phase constant equation, delta phi (phase difference) = (2pi * 0.45m) / 0.6m = 4.71 radians (wrong). What did I do wrong?
 
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thatguy4000 said:
Using the difference in phase constant equation, delta phi (phase difference) = (2pi * 0.45m) / 0.6m = 4.71 radians
What is the wavelength in part b? Is it the same as in part a?
 
In my attempt at a solution, I just assumed that the frequency from part A carried over (am I wrong to assume this?), giving me the same wavelength of 0.6m. In light of your question, I'm confused as to why the distance between interference maxima is only 0.45m instead of 0.60m, because shouldn't the distance between maxima always be a multiple of the wavelength?
 
thatguy4000 said:
I'm confused as to why the distance between interference maxima is only 0.45m instead of 0.60m,
That's why I asked. So suppose the wavelength has changed. You can still get an answer.
 
thatguy4000 said:

Homework Statement


A. Two identical speakers, with the same phase constant, are arranged along a 1D track. One speaker remains at the origin. The other speaker can slide along the track to any position x. You are on the track at x=10 m. You hear interference maxima when the adjutable speaker's position is 0.6 m and 1.2 m and at no points in between. What is the frequency of the sound from the speakers in Hz?
B. The speakers are now allowed to have different phase constants. They are adjusted so that you hear interference maxima when the adjustable speaker is at x = 0.6 m and again when it is at x = 1.05 m. What is the difference in the phase constant between the two speakers in rad?

Homework Equations


velocity = wavelength * frequency
delta phi = phi2 - phi1 = (2pi * delta x)/wavelength

The Attempt at a Solution


The wavelength in part A would be 0.6m because that's the distance between the maximum interference, giving me frequency = 343m/s / 0.6m = 571.67Hz (correct).
I could not get B correctly though. Using the difference in phase constant equation, delta phi (phase difference) = (2pi * 0.45m) / 0.6m = 4.71 radians (wrong). What did I do wrong?

Your mistake: delta x not equal (1.05-0.6)=0.45m, it should be (1.2-1.05)=0.15m. The new wavelength (Lamda)=(1.05-0.6)=0.45m. Hence delta phi=(2pi * 0.15)/0.45=2.093.

HTH
 
thatguy4000 said:

Homework Statement

A. Two identical speakers, with the same phase constant, are arranged along a 1D track. One speaker remains at the origin. The other speaker can slide along the track to any position x. You are on the track at x=10 m. You hear interference maxima when the adjutable speaker's position is 0.6 m and 1.2 m and at no points in between. What is the frequency of the sound from the speakers in Hz? B. The speakers are now allowed to have different phase constants. They are adjusted so that you hear interference maxima when the adjustable speaker is at x = 0.6 m and again when it is at x = 1.05 m. What is the difference in the phase constant between the two speakers in rad?

Homework Equations

velocity = wavelength * frequency delta phi = phi2 - phi1 = (2pi * delta x)/wavelength

The Attempt at a Solution

The wavelength in part A would be 0.6m because that's the distance between the maximum interference, giving me frequency = 343m/s / 0.6m = 571.67Hz (correct). I could not get B correctly though. Using the difference in phase constant equation, delta phi (phase difference) = (2pi * 0.45m) / 0.6m = 4.71 radians (wrong). What did I do wrong?
Your mistake: delta x not equal (1.05-0.6)=0.45m, it should be (1.2-1.05)=0.15m. The new wavelength (Lamda)=(1.05-0.6)=0.45m. Hence delta phi=(2pi * 0.15)/0.45=2.093. HTH
alanbo11 said:
5)=0.15m.

haruspex said:
What is the wavelength in part b? Is it the same as in part a?
Wavelength (Lamda)=1.05-0.6=0.45m
 
alanbo11 said:
Your mistake: delta x not equal (1.05-0.6)=0.45m, it should be (1.2-1.05)=0.15m. The new wavelength (Lamda)=(1.05-0.6)=0.45m. Hence delta phi=(2pi * 0.15)/0.45=2.093. HTH
Wavelength (Lamda)=1.05-0.6=0.45m
Thank you for posting. However, please note that the original post is 4 years old and the original poster is unlikely to profit from your contribution now.
 
alanbo11 said:
delta x not equal (1.05-0.6)=0.45m, it should be (1.2-1.05)=0.15m
It works either way. Just have to reduce the phase difference modulo ##2\pi## later.
alanbo11 said:
Wavelength (Lamda)=1.05-0.6=0.45m
Yes, I know that, but clearly the OP had missed it. Since he did not come back, my guess is he got the point and the right answer but didn't have the courtesy to acknowledge.
 
haruspex said:
That's why I asked. So suppose the wavelength has changed. You can still get an answer.

kuruman said:
Thank you for posting. However, please note that the original post is 4 years old and the original poster is unlikely to profit from your contribution now.
Ha, I hear you but is may be useful to some other folks.
 

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