Calculating phase difference of sound waves

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The problem involves calculating the phase difference between sound waves emitted from two speakers located at different distances from an observer. The speakers are oscillating in phase, and the frequency of the sound waves is given, along with the speed of sound in air.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the distance difference of 2 meters between the two speakers and its relation to the phase difference. Questions are raised about the wavelength of the sound and its connection to the phase angle. Some participants attempt to calculate the wavelength and relate it to the phase difference.

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There is ongoing exploration of the relationship between distance, wavelength, and phase difference. Some participants have provided calculations and insights, while others express uncertainty about the equations and concepts involved. The discussion is active, with multiple interpretations being explored.

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Participants mention constraints such as an impending exam and reference to a textbook that provides limited examples. There is also a discussion about the nature of phase differences and how they should be expressed.

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Homework Statement



An observer stands 3 m from speaker A and 5 m from speaker B. Both speakers, oscillating in phase, produce waves with a frequency of 250 Hz. The speed of sound in air is 340 m/s. What is the phase difference between the waves from A and B at the observer's location?

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The Attempt at a Solution



$$Δr=|{ r }_{ 2 }-{ r }_{ 1 }|\\ =2$$

I have no idea what to do. What the textbook says is attached. This was a test question. :(
 

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OK so the difference in distance is 2m as you state.

What is the wavelength of the sound?

And what relates wavelength to phase angle?
 
Think of the sound waves produced from the speakers as being composed of multiple wavelengths, whose length corresponds to the frequencies given.

When both sound waves hit the observer's ears, their wavelengths are not going to be aligned, given by the difference in their wavelengths. This difference is in fact the phase difference of the two sound waves.
 
rude man said:
OK so the difference in distance is 2m as you state.

What is the wavelength of the sound?

And what relates wavelength to phase angle?

I've calculated the wavelength to be 1.36m. But I have no equation that relates wavelength to phase angle.

TerraForce469 said:
Think of the sound waves produced from the speakers as being composed of multiple wavelengths, whose length corresponds to the frequencies given.

When both sound waves hit the observer's ears, their wavelengths are not going to be aligned, given by the difference in their wavelengths. This difference is in fact the phase difference of the two sound waves.

Isn't the wavelength for both the same?

v=fλ

v and f are the same, so λ must be the same.
 
Any help guys? I have a physics exam in 8 hours from this post.

Thank you in advance. The textbook has only 1 example and it is a simpler problem. :(
 
Turion said:
I've calculated the wavelength to be 1.36m. But I have no equation that relates wavelength to phase angle.

If I separate two waves of the same wavelength by one wavelength the phase difference is defined to be 2pi. Take it from there.

Isn't the wavelength for both the same?

v=fλ

v and f are the same, so λ must be the same.

Did I say it wasn't? I hope not ...
EDIT:

Oops, someone else did, and that was wrong. They're the same, as you say.
 
If I separate two waves of the same wavelength by one wavelength the phase difference is defined to be 2pi. Take it from there.

2m/1.36m*2pi = 9.24 rad = 2.96 rad

Is this right?

I didn't realize Δr had anything to do with wavelength.
 
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Turion said:
2m/1.36m*2pi = 9.24 rad = 2.96 rad

Is this right?

I didn't realize Δr had anything to do with wavelength.

Exactly right. The phase difference is actually 9.24 but you would measure 2.96.
 
rude man said:
Exactly right. The phase difference is actually 9.24 but you would measure 2.96.

Aren't they the same thing?
 
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No. It's like a clock that went round from noon to noon. Difference = 0 but it's a day later!

But OK - if you're asked to find the phase difference between two monochromatic (one and only one frequency) signals, always give an answer either between 0 and 2 pi or between -pi and +pi, just like you did. You can't measure any differently (unless we're dealing with signals of finite-width spectra, e.g. a signal with a mixture of between 500 and 501 nm. Then than interferogram (beating the two signals aginst each other) would look like a standard monochromatic interferogram except the peaks would diminish with the fringe number. And each fringe = 2 pi. If this sounds like gobbledygook, don't worry about it.)
 

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