Difference of Electron storage in metalloids and metals

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The discussion centers on the differences in electron storage and behavior between metalloids and metals, exploring the underlying reasons for these differences. It touches on concepts from quantum mechanics, conductivity, and the definitions of terms like 'metalloid', 'semimetal', and 'semiconductor'.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that metalloids like silicon have electrons that orbit the nucleus, while metals have electrons that form a "sea" due to being stripped from their atoms.
  • One participant suggests that metals have low energy F orbitals that allow electrons to be easily knocked off, while metalloids have partially filled F subshells that make them semi-attractive for free electrons.
  • A question is raised about why heavier non-metal atoms do not exhibit similar conductive properties as semiconductors despite having partially filled F orbitals.
  • Another participant introduces the idea of modeling electrons in metals as a gas of fermions, with the flow being controlled in semiconductors by introducing atoms with fully filled orbitals that act as barriers.
  • There is a discussion about the imprecision of the term 'metalloid' compared to the more precise definition of 'semimetal', with a focus on how conductivity relates to charge carriers in these materials.
  • One participant attempts to clarify the differences between semiconductors and semimetals, suggesting that semimetals have bonding structures closer to non-metals, while semiconductors have barriers that require energy for electron movement.
  • A later reply emphasizes that semimetals do not have barriers like semiconductors, making them less conductive regardless of energy input.

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The discussion contains multiple competing views regarding the definitions and properties of metalloids, semimetals, and semiconductors. Participants express differing opinions on the nature of electron behavior in these materials, and no consensus is reached on the distinctions between semiconductors and semimetals.

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There are limitations in the definitions and assumptions regarding the terms used, as well as the complexity of the underlying quantum mechanics that are not fully resolved in the discussion.

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Metalloids such as silicon share similar properties to metals, yet the way that electrons are held in both materials are completely different.

Whereas the electrons from silicon atoms are orbiting the nucleus, the outer shell of the electrons of metallic atoms are "stripped" from the atom and, as a result, form a sea of electrons.

Why is there such a difference between metalloids and metals?
 
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without knowledge of quantum mechanics, intuintivaly it can be thought of as this: the metals have F orbitals, which is a low energy orbital. i.e. the electrons in this orbital easily get knocked off by the atom colliding with others... (in very simple terms). the metalloids like sillicon have partially filled F subshells which makes them a semi attractive host for free electrons. However conductive metals like copper have an almost filled subshell which makes them ultra attractive for free electrons. (bearing in mind the further you fill up the subshell, the less energy the electrons need to fill up the remaining slots)
 
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Fine, but why don't heavier non-metal atoms share the same properties as semi-conductors where they have a partially filled F orbital that allows it to conduct electricity?
 
once you understood the idea behind the electrons of F orbitals, you can model the electrons flowing as a gas of fermions without much agitation due to the surrounding atoms. intuitively (maybe even wrong but just a case that makes it easier to imagine) the electrons comprise a set of wavelike functions that travel across the whole of the metal. in a semi conductor, by introducing a wall like object (a single atom with a fully filled orbital) the sea of flow of electrons can be controlled such that electrons arent allowed to pass through the doped atom in the lattice. so you have a wall type objects in your conductor that only allows electrons of certain energies through.
 
'Metalloid' is an imprecise term without any definite agreement on what it means. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metalloid#1960.E2.80.93

'Semimetal' on the other hand, is a term with a precise definition. Recall that the ease of which a material conducts electricity is correlated with how many charge carriers it has. Metals have lots of charge carriers since their electrons are free to move around. Semiconductors normally don't have free electrons, but a small electric field (or dopant atoms) can liberate enough electrons to carry current. Semimetals are somewhat 'strange' since, unlike metals, electrons need to be freed from atoms, but unlike most semiconductors, just the thermal energy of the material is enough to do this. (A more accurate way of saying this would be to say that they have negative indirect band-gap). Therefore they are less conductive than metals but somewhat more conductive than semiconductors.
 
Sorry for the long reply.

Correct me if I'm wrong but, from what I understand, it seems like semi-metals have a bonding structure which is closer to non-metals than metals (ie, it is like a covalent bond) except that they have a special property where you can liberate enough electrons to carry current due to the low thermal energy of the material.

In this case, though, what's the difference between a semi-conductor and a semi-metal? Would a semi-conductor include materials like graphite and semi-metals materials like silicon?
 
ok maybe read my post again. semi conductors have imaginary walls in them whereby electrons need some energy to pass through, so they are good conductors given some energy is provided. semi metals do not have walls they are just harder to liberate electrons in at all, hence bad conductors no matter what energy we give them.
 
Oh okay. I understand it now. Thanks for posting and helping. :smile:
 

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