Differences Between Free Basis and Basis: A Comprehensive Guide

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The discussion centers on the distinction between "free basis" and "basis" in linear algebra and module theory. Participants express that a basis typically refers to a set of vectors that spans a vector space, while an ordered basis includes a specific arrangement of these vectors. The term "free basis" is suggested to imply a basis without ordering, though it is not commonly found in standard linear algebra texts. The conversation highlights that in the context of modules, the definitions of free basis and basis appear to align closely, particularly in relation to vector spaces. Overall, the consensus is that there may not be a significant difference between the two terms in many contexts.
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What are the differences between the two?
 
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Do you mean ordered basis?
 
Don't think so.
 
Just surfing wiki, I get the impression that there is none. Do you have a reason to believe that there is a difference?
 
quasar987 said:
Just surfing wiki, I get the impression that there is none. Do you have a reason to believe that there is a difference?

Yeah, looks the same to me. This is what I studied in my linear algebra course: there's something called a basis and then something called an ordered basis. A basis with an ordering of elements (somewhat like an indexing set that has been fixed which maps to elements of your basis) is called an ordered basis.

I think when you say free basis, you probably mean a basis without ordering...but that's just a wild guess. I haven't come across this term (free basis) in my reading of any standard textbook on Linear Algebra (cf Hoffman/Kunze).
 
I am talking about it in the sense of modules.
 
If you look here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_module

they define a free module as a module having a free basis. But then they give the definition of a free basis and it is an exact analogy to what is simply called a 'basis' in linear algebra:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basis_(linear_algebra)#Definition

Another reason why I suspect that there is no difference btw the two is the following sentence in the article about modules:

"However, modules can be quite a bit more complicated than vector spaces; for instance, not all modules have a basis, and even those that do, free modules,[...] "
 
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Vector spaces are modules for fields. All modules for fields are free, so in this case the two notions agree.
 

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