Different equations for Electric Energy, me understand

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The discussion revolves around the equations for electric potential energy and the energy stored in a capacitor. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the different equations associated with these concepts, particularly in the context of charged plates and a charged particle between them.

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  • The original poster attempts to reconcile two equations related to electric energy, questioning why different equations apply to similar scenarios involving charged plates. Some participants clarify that the equations pertain to different contexts: one for a charged particle in an electric field and the other for energy stored in a capacitor.

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The discussion has progressed with some participants providing clarifications about the distinct contexts of the equations. There is an acknowledgment that the second equation can be derived from the first, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

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The original poster references specific educational materials in Swedish, which may influence their understanding of the concepts discussed. There is an indication of a lack of prior resources addressing their question.

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I've been reading recently about Electric Potential Energy and when introduced with the following situation of two charged plates (one (-) and the other (+)) and a charged particle between them I've been taught the following equation.

a) U=E/Q ⇔ E=QU

However now when I'm reading about a capacitor the equation for the stored electric energy in the capacitor is

b) E= (QU)/2

But how is this possible? A capacitor is to my understanding exactly what I've described above, two charged plates. So how come there is a different equation for the same thing?

For references I've read equation a) in Heureka A page 215 and b) in Heureka B page 180. The books are written in Swedish. I am very grateful for any help I can get to help me understand.

P.S I've been searching for the same question without luck so I believe it was appropriate to post this thread
 
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These two equations do not describe the same thing. The first one describes the potential energy of some particle (of charge Q) in some external electric field. The second describes the energy stored in a capacitor; Q is the charge stored in that same capacitor, not of some unrelated particle.
 


Thanks voko, I think i got it!
 


Very well. Keep in mind, though, that the second equation is obtained from the first one. It is done by considering some small charge dq that has to be moved from one plate to another. Assuming that the capacitor already holds some charge q, the potential difference is u = q/C; the energy required to move the small charge dq from one plate to another is then dE = u dq = q dq/C; this is the first equation. Integrating this we obtain E = Q^2/(2C) = QU/2.
 

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